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Jul 16, 2018 16:53:42 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2018 16:53:42 GMT -5
To NYI:
RD Jared Spurgeon TWD 84 - $5,185,000 UFA 2020 (28) - MIN eats $1,185,000 of Spurgeon deal for duration of contract
RW Ales Hemsky PLY 78 - $1,000,000 UFA 2019 (34)
To MIN:
RW Cal Clutterbuck GRN 78 $3,500,000 UFA 2022 (30)
RD Scott Mayfield DFD 75 $1,450,000 UFA 2023 (25)
2019 NYI 1st round pick
2019 TOR 3rd round pick
2019 NYI 5th round pick
Wild accept. Using my cap surplus while rebuilding to acquire a first round pick and some boosters for this coming draft.
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Jul 16, 2018 18:28:55 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2018 18:28:55 GMT -5
We accept. This team has a real shot, and adding a top 4 D to our loaded defense only helps that
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Jul 16, 2018 22:21:24 GMT -5
Post by Minnesota Wild GM on Jul 16, 2018 22:21:24 GMT -5
Clutterbuck has negative value along with Mayfield. NYI is a contending team meaning this pick will be low.
The retention just throws it overboard.
Gonna be a reject from me.
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Jul 16, 2018 22:56:55 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2018 22:56:55 GMT -5
I'm not sure how Mayfield has negative value. He's signed forever at 1.45M, and is still young. I assume Minny sees value in him, as you can turn him into a top 4 guy making less than 1.5M quite easily. Add in a 1st, 3rd and 5th, you have a solid return for an 84 overall on a rebuilding team. 1st rounders don't lose value just because they are 20+ lol
Clutterbuck for Hemsky is a cap dump for me, to make the rest of the deal work, along with the retention.
This is a typical deal that you see in real life.
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Jul 16, 2018 23:09:18 GMT -5
Post by Minnesota Wild GM on Jul 16, 2018 23:09:18 GMT -5
I'm not sure how Mayfield has negative value. He's signed forever at 1.45M, and is still young. I assume Minny sees value in him, as you can turn him into a top 4 guy making less than 1.5M quite easily. Add in a 1st, 3rd and 5th, you have a solid return for an 84 overall on a rebuilding team. 1st rounders don't lose value just because they are 20+ lol Clutterbuck for Hemsky is a cap dump for me, to make the rest of the deal work, along with the retention. This is a typical deal that you see in real life. cool accept |
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Jul 17, 2018 8:59:01 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 8:59:01 GMT -5
Zzzzzzzzzzzz
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Jul 17, 2018 9:55:42 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 9:55:42 GMT -5
Clutterbuck's contract is just so bad. Mayfield and the picks for Spurgeon with a retention is fair. Clutterbuck is a huge negative to the trade. A garbage contract for 4 more years hurts his value a ton.
I'm gonna reject.
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MIN-NYI
Jul 17, 2018 10:21:46 GMT -5
Post by St. Louis Blues GM on Jul 17, 2018 10:21:46 GMT -5
I'll accept
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Jul 17, 2018 10:54:01 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 10:54:01 GMT -5
Clutterbuck's contract is just so bad. Mayfield and the picks for Spurgeon with a retention is fair. Clutterbuck is a huge negative to the trade. A garbage contract for 4 more years hurts his value a ton. I'm gonna reject. The only thing I can say in response to the Clutterbuck contract, is that Minny is going scorched earth. He's gonna have the cap space available anyway, and depending on just how much he wants to sell off, it might actually help him reach the cap floor. |
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Jul 17, 2018 10:59:17 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 10:59:17 GMT -5
Clutterbuck's contract is just so bad. Mayfield and the picks for Spurgeon with a retention is fair. Clutterbuck is a huge negative to the trade. A garbage contract for 4 more years hurts his value a ton. I'm gonna reject. I'm not gonna pretend he has any value, but people are hanging onto first round picks like gold in this thing. I want a first to help with my rebuild and this was the price. I plan on drafting high for another season or two. Clutterbuck isn't going to hurt me too bad. |
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Jul 17, 2018 11:38:04 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 11:38:04 GMT -5
That first will not be anything special. Clutterbuck's value on top of the retention makes this trade too lopsided.
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Jul 17, 2018 13:20:33 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 13:20:33 GMT -5
That first will not be anything special. Clutterbuck's value on top of the retention makes this trade too lopsided Late firsts can, and have become quality players before. They aren't garbage just because they will be in the 20's. It was already explained that Clutterbuck & the retention is to make the deal work cap wise. The base of the deal is Spurgeon for Mayfield and the picks. We are micro-managing here. |
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Jul 17, 2018 13:48:26 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 13:48:26 GMT -5
When Clutterbuck is gonna be on their roster for the next 4 seasons, I'm not gonna let it pass. If it was one or two seasons, okay. But this is for 4 seasons.
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Jul 17, 2018 14:35:39 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 14:35:39 GMT -5
So we got two accepts and one reject. Anyone else wanna weigh in here?
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Jul 17, 2018 14:39:55 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 14:39:55 GMT -5
When Clutterbuck is gonna be on their roster for the next 4 seasons, I'm not gonna let it pass. If it was one or two seasons, okay. But this is for 4 seasons. Yes. 4 seasons where he won't need the cap space because he will be rebuilding, and should he need it, he can buy Clutterbuck out, and only lose 1.1M. We all agree Clutterbuck has a bad contract. But Minny has said he's okay with taking it, and it's because he is dumping salary like crazy. We are meant to prevent outragous deals. Not reject a deal because you personally think it is 1 year too long to take on. That is for Minny to decide. Also, it has 3 more seasons left, it's not like it is an 8 year deal or something lol I don't even want to trade Clutterbuck. I brought Matt Martin back because I loved the idea of reuiniting the "best 4th line in hockey", and it has worked. It's only there because we need salaries to even up. |
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