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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 15:39:07 GMT -5
Get a patent on this bad boy so nobody can copy you either. That way if people want to do this they can pay you royalties to allow them to do so. Please explain what in this entire process can specifically be patented?
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Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Jun 29, 2020 15:40:31 GMT -5
For the way he's doing it yeah. You can patent an idea for sure
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Post by Minnesota Wild GM on Jun 29, 2020 15:40:43 GMT -5
Get a patent on this bad boy so nobody can copy you either. That way if people want to do this they can pay you royalties to allow them to do so. You think you can get a patent for simming? no beuno its still all EA. IF I develop my own simming technology its a different story. For now, we are just utilizing online platforms to provide entertainment to all those involved.
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Post by Minnesota Wild GM on Jun 29, 2020 15:45:03 GMT -5
For the way he's doing it yeah. You can patent an idea for sure Nah, created a production company that will stand as a sole proprietor so all things related to HLS will run through there for tax and ownership purposes.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 15:52:19 GMT -5
The league will be self governed, with money involved, I don't see anyone taking or giving bullshit for too long without being replaced I guess that is closer to my question - if I am paying to be a part of this community, will the standards of moderation rise? I have never felt welcome here, so what will change if I give you money to be here? If so, how? Will problems I report to you be dealt with properly? Will you be relying on your volunteer staff to be moderating forums? Yeah ok, I see what you mean, yet thats the real world too so it will be up to a GMs skill to get out of the drain or maintain a dynasty. We already see dramatic fluctuation in the standings every season. The only other payout would be a smaller percentage out to the AHL winner. *BTW there would be a TEAM SELECTION DRAFT come REBOOT In the real world, GMs are paid, they are not paying to play. And they are not paid equally. Not to mention ownership is not equal either - to buy the Leafs is far more expensive than buying the Panthers. All besides the point, really, but there WILL be people unwilling to pay the same price for Detroit as was charged for Tampa Bay. Also, no amount of GM skill can force Edmonton to trade McDavid to Detroit. Nor does GM skill play a role in anything related to PR stuff. So, for example, when a PR decides a player is leaving, or wants to go to their home team. But question related to that. How are you, as PR AND guy who makes money off members being here, planning to deal with the conflict of interest that will arise when someone says "If this guy doesn't re-sign with me, I am quitting"? IF the league is not full, aren't you in a position where your wallet (and the league's payout) is in a better situation if you cave to those ultimatums? The only other payout would be a smaller percentage out to the AHL winner. *BTW there would be a TEAM SELECTION DRAFT come REBOOT Nice. And nice. Yeah for sure, yet theres is implicit consent agreed upon by all streamers/platforms/developers that maintains a fine line between infringement and fair use. Technically, every streamer that has ever streamed a video game online on ANY platform is infringement of developer user agreements, however due to this implicit consent, almost all content created by streamers is deemed fair use (minus music). Basically, streamers generate a fuckton of money and followers for video games, so while they may make a couple bucks on the side, the overall outcome is the developers winning. Kinda like passing a cop on the road going 90 in an 80 and he doesnt stop you...think of us as going 81 in an 80 Fair use has to do with copyright. Not User Agreements. When you watch a stream, the service being provided is the act of streaming. Your presence and personality (this is why I tihnk you could loophole the thing with Twitch). But what you described here, If people are paying you for a SIM (on an EA game), and making money off of the service, it is not fair use. It is not even a gray area. You are using NHL 20 commercially. (Edit: You actually said exactly this above) Other questions: 1) Why are you talking about taking a team yourself if you are PR and also sure the league will be full? 2) Can people pay half and join in for half-seasons? 3) Are you concerned people will just lock up the best players and never trade them? Since having a default Boston/Tampa will get you far without any trades? 4) Have you considered a fantasy draft to make things fair? If you decided against it, why did you decide against it? 5) Will you be solely responsible for changing, lowering, increasing overalls? I have seen controversy about overall changes in the past, so will criteria be clearly posted for that if people are paying for this service? 6) The way this is set up, what separates it from gambling? Like, ProLine for example. That's gambling, and has strict laws. If you are not going the Twitch route, how are you circumventing that?
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Post by Nashville Predators GM on Jun 29, 2020 15:58:21 GMT -5
You'd almost need to separate teams into 3 tiers.
"The elite" - Tbay, for example. "The good" - Florida, for example "The bad" - Detroit, for example
And a premium for those who take Tbay versus Detroit. You pay less for a crappier team.
But then that gets kind of controversial as well.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 16:00:22 GMT -5
It seems very interesting on paper but without having a test season I struggle to identify the pros and cons and understanding if it is something I really want to dive into.
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Post by Old Greg on Jun 29, 2020 16:02:32 GMT -5
Easy fix for teams like Detroit and whatever other teams you think are unfair is oilers takes one and I don’t really care I can take one too
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 16:04:49 GMT -5
Easy fix for teams like Detroit and whatever other teams you think are unfair is oilers takes one and I don’t really care I can take one too I don’t think it’s about who takes them. If he is looking at growing this into hundreds of people participating then that means multiple leagues. How do you appropriately disperse multiples of the worst team in the league to people that are interested in paying to be part of it. That’s what I want to know. If I join a league that only has the bad teams left then what?
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Post by Old Greg on Jun 29, 2020 16:05:33 GMT -5
It seems very interesting on paper but without having a test season I struggle to identify the pros and cons and understanding if it is something I really want to dive into. It’s literally the exact same thing we’re doing here lol nothing has changed except for the way everything is posted and the $$.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 16:06:13 GMT -5
Another thing I would like to know is if you were going to trade freeze each league before they are full? I know it can be complicated and frustrating when you join the league a day or two after it opens and already multiple trades have gone through. Would I be potentially joining and getting one of the worst teams and also be behind the eight ball for trades?
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Post by Old Greg on Jun 29, 2020 16:07:59 GMT -5
Easy fix for teams like Detroit and whatever other teams you think are unfair is oilers takes one and I don’t really care I can take one too I don’t think it’s about who takes them. If he is looking at growing this into hundreds of people participating then that means multiple leagues. How do you appropriately disperse multiples of the worst team in the league to people that are interested in paying to be part of it. That’s what I want to know. If I join a league that only has the bad teams left then what? Then it dies like ea. I think that’s why there’s reboots so it doesn’t get stale. Not sure but don’t think he’s thinking of multiple leagues
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 16:08:10 GMT -5
It seems very interesting on paper but without having a test season I struggle to identify the pros and cons and understanding if it is something I really want to dive into. It’s literally the exact same thing we’re doing here lol nothing has changed except for the way everything is posted and the $$. It isn’t. He wants to run multiple leagues. He said he’s hoping to grow this substantially to up to 4000 people. I know that’s high hopes but that is a target he obviously wants to hit. Are you and a few friends now going to join every single one of those leagues and pay for each of those leagues and take intentionally the worst teams? Also is there tiered pricing? Has an actual number been made public yet to participate? If its a business are there receipts for e-transfer purchases? Will you accept paypal as kruze pointed out that some online banking has costs still? Also not sure if I missed this in the thread but what will still be here to see and what will be on the new site?
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Post by Old Greg on Jun 29, 2020 16:36:27 GMT -5
It’s literally the exact same thing we’re doing here lol nothing has changed except for the way everything is posted and the $$. It isn’t. He wants to run multiple leagues. He said he’s hoping to grow this substantially to up to 4000 people. I know that’s high hopes but that is a target he obviously wants to hit. Are you and a few friends now going to join every single one of those leagues and pay for each of those leagues and take intentionally the worst teams? Also is there tiered pricing? Has an actual number been made public yet to participate? If its a business are there receipts for e-transfer purchases? Will you accept paypal as kruze pointed out that some online banking has costs still? Also not sure if I missed this in the thread but what will still be here to see and what will be on the new site? He’s going a test run on this league to see what works best for him and everyone else. You’re asking a lot of questions that have already been answered so look around. If you’re interested grab a team and see how it works
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 16:40:59 GMT -5
You’re asking a lot of questions that have already been answered so look around. Welcome to the world of real business and therefore, by extension, real-life customer service - answering the same questions OVER AND OVER AND OVER again.
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