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Post by Seattle Kraken GM on Jun 30, 2020 19:37:01 GMT -5
I guess that is closer to my question - if I am paying to be a part of this community, will the standards of moderation rise? I have never felt welcome here, so what will change if I give you money to be here? If so, how? Will problems I report to you be dealt with properly? Will you be relying on your volunteer staff to be moderating forums? In the real world, GMs are paid, they are not paying to play. And they are not paid equally. Not to mention ownership is not equal either - to buy the Leafs is far more expensive than buying the Panthers. All besides the point, really, but there WILL be people unwilling to pay the same price for Detroit as was charged for Tampa Bay. Also, no amount of GM skill can force Edmonton to trade McDavid to Detroit. Nor does GM skill play a role in anything related to PR stuff. So, for example, when a PR decides a player is leaving, or wants to go to their home team. But question related to that. How are you, as PR AND guy who makes money off members being here, planning to deal with the conflict of interest that will arise when someone says "If this guy doesn't re-sign with me, I am quitting"? IF the league is not full, aren't you in a position where your wallet (and the league's payout) is in a better situation if you cave to those ultimatums? Nice. And nice. Fair use has to do with copyright. Not User Agreements. When you watch a stream, the service being provided is the act of streaming. Your presence and personality (this is why I tihnk you could loophole the thing with Twitch). But what you described here, If people are paying you for a SIM (on an EA game), and making money off of the service, it is not fair use. It is not even a gray area. You are using NHL 20 commercially. (Edit: You actually said exactly this above) Other questions: 1) Why are you talking about taking a team yourself if you are PR and also sure the league will be full? 2) Can people pay half and join in for half-seasons? 3) Are you concerned people will just lock up the best players and never trade them? Since having a default Boston/Tampa will get you far without any trades? 4) Have you considered a fantasy draft to make things fair? If you decided against it, why did you decide against it? 5) Will you be solely responsible for changing, lowering, increasing overalls? I have seen controversy about overall changes in the past, so will criteria be clearly posted for that if people are paying for this service? 6) The way this is set up, what separates it from gambling? Like, ProLine for example. That's gambling, and has strict laws. If you are not going the Twitch route, how are you circumventing that? All users agree to Proboards standards. Theres also access to Proboards in which you can directly report any harassment to the forum and they will handle it without prejudice. Get it can be frustrating, you know it as ADMIN of your site, yet there are plenty of options that allows both Proboard/YouTube to monitor they way they do. The cost will be the same for everyone. If people quit, they quit. We are all adults here. This league will have more demand. This has been in the works for a while, we are good. 1 - love to just be admin and PR so we will see, yet already established if I win as GM then league gets money back 2 - n/a 3 - There is a salary cap for a reason 4 - no 5 - yes and it will all be broadcasted so GMs/viewers see everything I do - criteria has always been posted for OAs 6 - subscribing Why would you even answer that pissant? 🤷 He's not even a member.
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Post by Ottawa Senators GM on Jun 30, 2020 19:41:21 GMT -5
Why would you even answer that pissant? 🤷 He's not even a member. Dude, this is exactly the harassment he's talking about. Can you not be a complete ass for once in your life?
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Post by Old Greg on Jun 30, 2020 19:51:54 GMT -5
Why would you even answer that pissant? 🤷 He's not even a member. Dude, this is exactly the harassment he's talking about. Can you not be a complete ass for once in your life? Act like an ass get treated like one. Go and look at their league and their banner if that’s not a shot at this league then I don’t know what to say. So it kind of goes both ways but it is getting out of hand.
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Post by Seattle Kraken GM on Jun 30, 2020 19:56:59 GMT -5
Why would you even answer that pissant? 🤷 He's not even a member. Dude, this is exactly the harassment he's talking about. Can you not be a complete ass for once in your life? Oh Fuck off dude... 🙄 The guy's not a member of this site at all. Period. As an admin, one would think you'd be more about protecting it instead of allowing some outsider asshat come in and ruin this site like he did with EA. It's not harassment... He has no business asking any questions or making any suggestions here cuz he doesn't have a team and has no intention of taking one. Open your fucking eyes.
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Post by Minnesota Wild GM on Jun 30, 2020 20:46:53 GMT -5
Dude, this is exactly the harassment he's talking about. Can you not be a complete ass for once in your life? Act like an ass get treated like one. Go and look at their league and their banner if that’s not a shot at this league then I don’t know what to say. So it kind of goes both ways but it is getting out of hand. Wow fucking eh hahah it's the same way they treated me on MMA. It's alright though they clearly are just trying to fuck with us here and I will block them from now on. I've only been kind to them but they've been sleezy behind my back more than once. So so long to them!
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Post by Seattle Kraken GM on Jun 30, 2020 20:56:37 GMT -5
Act like an ass get treated like one. Go and look at their league and their banner if that’s not a shot at this league then I don’t know what to say. So it kind of goes both ways but it is getting out of hand. Wow fucking eh hahah it's the same way they treated me on MMA. It's alright though they clearly are just trying to fuck with us here and I will block them from now on. I've only been kind to them but they've been sleezy behind my back more than once. So so long to them!
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Post by Minnesota Wild GM on Jun 30, 2020 21:01:37 GMT -5
Dude, this is exactly the harassment he's talking about. Can you not be a complete ass for once in your life? Oh Fuck off dude... 🙄 The guy's not a member of this site at all. Period. As an admin, one would think you'd be more about protecting it instead of allowing some outsider asshat come in and ruin this site like he did with EA. It's not harassment... He has no business asking any questions or making any suggestions here cuz he doesn't have a team and has no intention of taking one. Open your fucking eyes. Sens is great at keeping peace so don't hate on him for doing what he thinks best for us, there is a reason that him and snaggs are admins and will continue to be come reboot! Keep the animosity for the fuckers that don't care about us, like the two we just banned. Appreciate the honesty and the defending of this league though.
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Post by Seattle Kraken GM on Jun 30, 2020 21:05:41 GMT -5
Oh Fuck off dude... 🙄 The guy's not a member of this site at all. Period. As an admin, one would think you'd be more about protecting it instead of allowing some outsider asshat come in and ruin this site like he did with EA. It's not harassment... He has no business asking any questions or making any suggestions here cuz he doesn't have a team and has no intention of taking one. Open your fucking eyes. Sens is great at keeping peace so don't hate on him for doing what he thinks best for us, there is a reason that him and snaggs are admins and will continue to be come reboot! Keep the animosity for the fuckers that don't care about us, like the two we just banned. Appreciate the honesty and the defending of this league though. I got that... And he is... But I just wasn't going to let that fly cuz he was defending that prick. 🤷
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Post by Vancouver Canucks GM on Jul 1, 2020 11:53:52 GMT -5
Act like an ass get treated like one. Go and look at their league and their banner if that’s not a shot at this league then I don’t know what to say. So it kind of goes both ways but it is getting out of hand. Wow fucking eh hahah it's the same way they treated me on MMA. It's alright though they clearly are just trying to fuck with us here and I will block them from now on. I've only been kind to them but they've been sleezy behind my back more than once. So so long to them! I've been saying that since day one. Always an ulterior motive with these douchers. They only come around to act like fuck heads and to recruit for their own dumpster fire sites. Justin is borderline cool, but never contributes to anything... Mike can eat a big bowl of manhammers.
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Post by Seattle Kraken GM on Jul 1, 2020 13:02:48 GMT -5
Wow fucking eh hahah it's the same way they treated me on MMA. It's alright though they clearly are just trying to fuck with us here and I will block them from now on. I've only been kind to them but they've been sleezy behind my back more than once. So so long to them! I've been saying that since day one. Always an ulterior motive with these douchers. They only come around to act like fuck heads and to recruit for their own dumpster fire sites. Justin is borderline cool, but never contributes to anything... Mike can eat a big bowl of manhammers. The only reason Justin is even 'borderline' cool is because he panders to folks and twists things all around to get his way, and constantly manipulates people. He always has an agenda. It's pathetic, really. They can both eat a big bowl of manhammers as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by Vancouver Canucks GM on Jul 1, 2020 15:27:13 GMT -5
🤣🤣
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Post by Seattle Kraken GM on Jul 2, 2020 11:47:22 GMT -5
You laugh, but those two yo-yos are literally the most ignorant, arrogant and egotistical assholes I've ever encountered whether in life or online. 😂😂 The only reason the MMA site is any semblance of a "success" is because it's the only MMA sim league out there. 🤷 The problem is that Tweedledee runs it like he's bloody Vince McMahon. Claims he's not determining any outcomes, and resimming fights to achieve those results. Yet, if you check their record books, his own team is at the top in nearly every single category... And it's not like by 10-15... It's like he's 100 ahead of everyone. Even when he trades away a bunch of his better fighters when they get new members, he's still at or near the top of the league standings and has made the GP (playoffs) every season, save for maybe once, and once when he let a newer team take his GP spot. It's bloody insanity. 😂😂
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Post by Minnesota Wild GM on Jul 4, 2020 12:12:32 GMT -5
Okay now that all that is out of the way, I would like people to post the amount of donations they are willing o pay each season and we will come up with a median number based on those suggestions. Really can't move this forward until we have a foundation to advertise.
The break down will be something like this
60% - ADMIN 30% - NHL winner 10% - AHL winner
Suggestions
10$ per season (roughly 50 days real time)
Admin - $186 NHL winner - $93 AHL winner - $31
15$ per season (roughly 50 days real time)
Admin - $279 NHL winner - $186 AHL winner - $46.5
20$ per season (roughly 50 days real time)
Admin - $372 NHL winner - $186 AHL winner - $62
25$ per season (roughly 50 days real time)
Admin - $465 NHL winner - $310 AHL winner - $77.5
30$ per season (roughly 50 days real time)
Admin - $558 NHL winner - $279 AHL winner - $93
35$ per season (roughly 50 days real time)
Admin - $651 NHL winner - $434 AHL winner - $108.5
40$ per season (roughly 50 days real time)
Admin - $744 NHL winner - $372 AHL winner - $124
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Post by Old Greg on Jul 4, 2020 13:17:30 GMT -5
I’m going to assume knowing most people here are super cheap asses their going to want $10 or less lol
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Post by Ottawa Senators GM on Jul 4, 2020 16:40:43 GMT -5
Yeah tbh even $10 a season is more than I though it would be
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