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Post by gingerbreadman on Jul 19, 2020 18:27:50 GMT -5
To LD Ryan Murray TWD 86 (26) - 4.6M UFA 2021 RW Gustav Nyquist SNP 85 (30) - 5.5M UFA 2023 G Elvis Merzlikins HYB 84 (26) - 4.0M UFA 2022 To LD Mike Reilly TWD 77 (26) - 1.5M UFA 2021 LW Alex Formenton TWF 76 (20) - 0.748M UFA 2022 G Andreas Nilsson HYB 81 (30) - 2.6M UFA 2021 NYI 2020 1ST - 18th Overall Accept I'm to re-post this trade because I wasn't allowed to delete it once it had been posted even tho there had been no acceptance by the other team yet on the post. Which I didn't know. I tried to back out cause I misunderstood the value of players and draft picks. OTT GM knew I wanted out but still forced the issue. He even replied to my PM about the trade after I backed out and deleted the trade post.
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Post by Old Greg on Jul 19, 2020 18:31:15 GMT -5
If the other gm hasn’t accepted the trade shouldn’t matter if the trade was deleted. I had one posted and it was deleted on me too. Didn’t matter to me because it was a compliance buyout deal but was still deleted. But this trade is clearly not fair anyway
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Post by St. Louis Blues GM on Jul 19, 2020 18:32:49 GMT -5
I think this is fair value for Murray alone. Nilsson + Reilly are arguably bad contracts, so a decent prospect + the 18th for Murray is alright. The rest is overboard. I won't reject, but I think it's too one sided
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Post by Minnesota Wild GM on Jul 19, 2020 18:34:07 GMT -5
If the other gm hasn’t accepted the trade shouldn’t matter if the trade was deleted. I had one posted and it was deleted on me too. Didn’t matter to me because it was a compliance buyout deal but was still deleted. But this trade is clearly not fair anyway Thats not the case - when posting a trade you are agreeing to the terms - its your way of saying 'ACCEPT', therefore it has to be processed by at least the other team involved. Trades shouldn't be deleted unless Minnesota Wild GM , Ottawa Senators GM , St. Louis Blues GM or Vancouver Canucks GM are notified by both teams involved. It avoids miscommunication like we have here. Reject from me btw
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Post by Old Greg on Jul 19, 2020 18:38:08 GMT -5
If the other gm hasn’t accepted the trade shouldn’t matter if the trade was deleted. I had one posted and it was deleted on me too. Didn’t matter to me because it was a compliance buyout deal but was still deleted. But this trade is clearly not fair anyway Thats not the case - when posting a trade you are agreeing to the terms - its your way of saying 'ACCEPT', therefore it has to be processed by at least the other team involved. Trades shouldn't be deleted unless Minnesota Wild GM , Ottawa Senators GM , St. Louis Blues GM or Vancouver Canucks GM are notified by both teams involved. It avoids miscommunication like we have here. Reject from me btw Well I was the one who told him he was allowed too since nobody accepted or rejected it just so everyone knows plus someone deleted my trade I posted because they wanted a different player involved just saying. He pmed me and asked if he was allowed because he realized how everything worked value wise after he did.
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CBJ - OTT
Jul 19, 2020 18:41:31 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by viperousperky on Jul 19, 2020 18:41:31 GMT -5
Reject either way
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Post by Minnesota Wild GM on Jul 19, 2020 18:41:54 GMT -5
Well I was the one who told him he was allowed too since nobody accepted or rejected it just so everyone knows plus someone deleted my trade I posted because they wanted a different player involved just saying. He pmed me and asked if he was allowed because he realized how everything worked value wise after he did. Nah, this is a good learning lesson for the league then In the trading rules its states "**When a GM "ACCEPTS" a TRADE in the TRADE THREAD - it CANNOT be reversed & it becomes FINAL on their behalf**" So when posting a trade - that counts as your ACCEPT - the trade must be processed to be a FINAL ACCEPT/REJECT
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Post by Old Greg on Jul 19, 2020 18:52:39 GMT -5
Either way now we all know the exact rule even though it’s the 2nd time I’ve seen it happen in a coupe of days lol but how did anyone even know it was posted was up for like 2 minutes and nobody commented on it lol. Makes you wonder. Also best way to get someone to accept or reject your trades right away is to put an @ in front of their names. @josephzita Your trade
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Post by Vancouver Canucks GM on Jul 19, 2020 20:42:50 GMT -5
Reject
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Post by Vancouver Canucks GM on Jul 19, 2020 20:53:08 GMT -5
For anyone wondering why it's a rule that you can't delete your own trade thread is this... back in the day we had issues with guys posting a trade, then other GMs see it and quickly PM the dude in the deal and offers him "a better deal"...which is greasy for the other guy in the deal. It helps keep a fair and level playing field. Just make sure that when you post a trade, you're all in, cuz posting it is your official 'accept'
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Post by gingerbreadman on Jul 19, 2020 21:19:43 GMT -5
It wasn't the rule that bothered me, it was the way it was handled. I don't like when people lie and when it only applies to me and not everyone else. If rules are to be enforced, that means for everyone, not just me.
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Post by Minnesota Wild GM on Jul 19, 2020 21:42:43 GMT -5
It wasn't the rule that bothered me, it was the way it was handled. I don't like when people lie and when it only applies to me and not everyone else. If rules are to be enforced, that means for everyone, not just me. This applies to everyone though. You were asked first what happened to your trade, and you told me you deleted it cause you knew you were getting 'hugged'. The deletion was then confirmed in the security log. OTT was then approached to confirm that he didn't want the deal - and he subsequently said he was unaware the deal had not gone through. I was then sent a screen shot of the deal that was initially agreed upon by both you and him. That was the all information I was provided with. I then went back to you simply asking to re-post this deal because deals can't be deleted, plus OTT felt slighted by the deletion. I also informed you that I don't see it going through regardless and that I would be rejecting it myself. It simply had to be processed by the league though so the posting was necessary. There was a clear miscommunication between both teams though. Apologies you feel slighted, wasn't the intention! The rules apply to everyone the same...just ask the guys that have been here for 19+ seasons now lol
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Post by Old Greg on Jul 19, 2020 21:53:20 GMT -5
It wasn't the rule that bothered me, it was the way it was handled. I don't like when people lie and when it only applies to me and not everyone else. If rules are to be enforced, that means for everyone, not just me. This applies to everyone though. You were asked first what happened to your trade, and you told me you deleted it cause you knew you were getting 'hugged'. The deletion was then confirmed in the security log. OTT was then approached to confirm that he didn't want the deal - and he subsequently said he was unaware the deal had not gone through. I was then sent a screen shot of the deal that was initially agreed upon by both you and him. That was the all information I was provided with. I then went back to you simply asking to re-post this deal because deals can't be deleted, plus OTT felt slighted by the deletion. I also informed you that I don't see it going through regardless and that I would be rejecting it myself. It simply had to be processed by the league though so the posting was necessary. There was a clear miscommunication between both teams though. Apologies you feel slighted, wasn't the intention! The rules apply to everyone the same...just ask the guys that have been here for 19+ seasons now lol Whatever life goes on. I told him to delete it if he didn't like it because you deleted my post for a trade you and I were doing lol and then changed it which I was fine with whatever I'm not a baby. So I thought it was fine. Seems like Ottawa approached you first instead of just talking to jackets who posted which should have happened first. And lol don't think anyone saw the original trade it was up for a very short time. We're all grown men here but if anyone deserves a spanking its me so spank away
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Post by Dallas Stars GM on Jul 19, 2020 22:09:45 GMT -5
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