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Post by viperousperky on Jul 29, 2020 11:36:10 GMT -5
To MTL: LD Mark Giordano TWD 91 (36) - 6.75M UFA 2022 - NTC C Mark Jankowski TWF 80 (25) - 1.25M UFA 2021 - 50% cap retained this year. To CGY: LD Victor Mete TWD 82 (22) - 3.0M RFA 2022 LW Artturi Lehkonen SNP 81 (25) - 2.4M RFA 2021 RW Joel Armia TWF 83 (27) - 2.6M UFA 2021 C Jordan Weal PLY 78 (28) - 1.4M UFA 2021 Jankowski/Weal are only here for cap purposes. MTL accepts. thehockeyistPlayer Rep for gios NTC
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Post by Old Greg on Jul 29, 2020 12:06:04 GMT -5
A lot of dog shit for a 91 rated guy but older player I guess Idk
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Jul 29, 2020 12:14:47 GMT -5
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Post by viperousperky on Jul 29, 2020 12:14:47 GMT -5
A lot of dog shit for a 91 rated guy but older player I guess Idk Mete is a good piece. I would agree that this wouldn’t be enough except gio is into auto downgrades and will be a 85 after next year.
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Jul 29, 2020 12:19:18 GMT -5
Post by Old Greg on Jul 29, 2020 12:19:18 GMT -5
A lot of dog shit for a 91 rated guy but older player I guess Idk Mete is a good piece. I would agree that this wouldn’t be enough except gio is into auto downgrades and will be a 85 after next year. Maybe Im going to wait to see what Minnesota Wild GM says I know Gio is old just seems like nothing for him lol. Basically Mete and Armia for him as jankowski Lehkonen Weal and the cap retainment are fair enough
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2020 12:35:34 GMT -5
I don’t know, Mete seems like a good piece coming back. If CAL wants to get younger, and spread out the depth. Armia being a pending FA kinda brings down the value. Seems like Pulujarvi should be the piece coming back. But you’ve all seen my luck with getting trades through, lol
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Jul 29, 2020 12:36:16 GMT -5
Post by Old Greg on Jul 29, 2020 12:36:16 GMT -5
I don’t know, Mete seems like a good piece coming back. If CAL wants to get younger, and spread out the depth. Armia being a pending FA kinda brings down the value. Seems like Pulujarvi should be the piece coming back. But you’ve all seen my luck with getting trades through, lol We saved you with Doughty look at him now lol
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Jul 29, 2020 12:45:13 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2020 12:45:13 GMT -5
I don’t know, Mete seems like a good piece coming back. If CAL wants to get younger, and spread out the depth. Armia being a pending FA kinda brings down the value. Seems like Pulujarvi should be the piece coming back. But you’ve all seen my luck with getting trades through, lol We saved you with Doughty look at him now lol It’s not like I didn’t know he would be good, just wanted different things. But I am glad I held onto him. Still on the market though
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Post by viperousperky on Jul 29, 2020 12:46:46 GMT -5
I’m not giving 2 young 20s guys for a dude who has 2-3 years left. Armia and lehkonen should have value as mid 20s guys. Lehkonen is expensive yes but rfa this year so can be signed to a better contract.
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Jul 29, 2020 13:10:29 GMT -5
Post by Old Greg on Jul 29, 2020 13:10:29 GMT -5
I’m not giving 2 young 20s guys for a dude who has 2-3 years left. Armia and lehkonen should have value as mid 20s guys. Lehkonen is expensive yes but rfa this year so can be signed to a better contract. Maybe but there basically 4th liners and Mete seems to suck right now. I’m fine with the trade If Wild is everyone here seems to think anyone over the age of basically 28 has zero value
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Post by viperousperky on Jul 29, 2020 13:14:19 GMT -5
I think 28 is soon to lose value. But 36 is ancient haha
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Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Jul 29, 2020 13:14:56 GMT -5
Considering what happened with my deal and this being so similar I don't see how I could accept it. We've set a standard, now we have to keep up with it.
Reject
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Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Jul 29, 2020 13:17:01 GMT -5
A lot of dog shit for a 91 rated guy but older player I guess Idk Mete is a good piece. I would agree that this wouldn’t be enough except gio is into auto downgrades and will be a 85 after next year. Also, as long as Gio plays good (he's almost a PPG player right now) then he won't be hit hard with downgrades. He could very well retire as an 88.
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Post by viperousperky on Jul 29, 2020 13:30:29 GMT -5
Mete is a good piece. I would agree that this wouldn’t be enough except gio is into auto downgrades and will be a 85 after next year. Also, as long as Gio plays good (he's almost a PPG player right now) then he won't be hit hard with downgrades. He could very well retire as an 88. he for sure gets -3 each year because of his age. Minimum downgrade is -3 since the reboot. I get why your rejecting but gio is not doughty. Doughtys age gives him a few years where he won’t downgrade.
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Jul 29, 2020 13:35:21 GMT -5
Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Jul 29, 2020 13:35:21 GMT -5
Also, as long as Gio plays good (he's almost a PPG player right now) then he won't be hit hard with downgrades. He could very well retire as an 88. he for sure gets -3 each year because of his age. Minimum downgrade is -3 since the reboot. I get why your rejecting but gio is not doughty. Doughtys age gives him a few years where he won’t downgrade. And I was also trading more pieces away than you are. I also don't see anything in the rules stating a for sure downgrade, only a performance downgrade.
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Post by viperousperky on Jul 29, 2020 13:38:32 GMT -5
I was 95% sure it was sent out somewhere. Minnesota Wild GM ? Posting this I thought it was fair because he is guaranteed to get -3 a season. If that’s not the case, and it’s just performance based than I do agree that I’m not giving enough.
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