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Post by Detroit Red Wings GM on Sept 13, 2020 19:54:58 GMT -5
To RD Brendan Carlo DFD 89 (25): 6.0M RFA 2026 (CGY Retains 2.10M until 2025) To RD Connor Murphy DFD 87 (29): 6.9M UFA 2026 LW Robby Fabbri PLY 84 (26): 5.75M UFA 2025 LD Simon Forsmark TWD 64 (18) - 0.875M RFA 2025 LD Albin Rainersson TWD 63 (18) - 0.875M RFA 2025 G Kaden Fulcher HYB 72 (23): 0.700M RFA 2023 Surely this is better? All CGY has to do after this trade is offload an excess center or two for 2nd round picks or some prospects and he's fine on cap. He would need to do this anyway
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Post by thehockeyist on Sept 13, 2020 20:02:27 GMT -5
I now completely understand that I was an idiot for accepting the first trade. Accept and I will communicate with other teams later.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2020 21:47:01 GMT -5
Reject, Murphy was just signed lol
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Post by Carolina Hurricanes GM on Sept 13, 2020 22:02:54 GMT -5
I don’t like it when a team signs a player, and trades him before he ever plays a game. It takes an opportunity away from a team that maybe wanted to actually play him. But I don’t know if that makes it worthy of a reject though.
I guess the value is there if that’s what Calgary wants to do
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Post by Detroit Red Wings GM on Sept 13, 2020 22:37:47 GMT -5
I don’t like it when a team signs a player, and trades him before he ever plays a game. It takes an opportunity away from a team that maybe wanted to actually play him. But I don’t know if that makes it worthy of a reject though. I guess the value is there if that’s what Calgary wants to do He'd be playing the exact same thing on either team and be getting the same icetime, so I don't see the difference lol
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Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Sept 14, 2020 4:39:25 GMT -5
I don’t like it when a team signs a player, and trades him before he ever plays a game. It takes an opportunity away from a team that maybe wanted to actually play him. But I don’t know if that makes it worthy of a reject though. I guess the value is there if that’s what Calgary wants to do He'd be playing the exact same thing on either team and be getting the same icetime, so I don't see the difference lol Yes but now you’re getting a better player at half the cost by trading the player that you legit just signed. Hurts the realism of the site cause we’d never see a trade like this irl.
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Post by Ottawa Senators GM on Sept 14, 2020 6:15:52 GMT -5
Its fine lads, Murphy will probably be the last good free agent to sign in Detroit, and his contract extentions will likely cost more now.
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Post by Pittsburgh Penguins GM on Sept 14, 2020 6:42:19 GMT -5
Reject
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Post by Detroit Red Wings GM on Sept 14, 2020 7:03:44 GMT -5
Yes but now you’re getting a better player at half the cost by trading the player that you legit just signed. Hurts the realism of the site cause we’d never see a trade like this irl. That's not exactly my fault... That initial contract existed because of how player upgrades exist on the site. Someone can sign a 5M-5.5M deal for an 85, they get upgraded to 87-88, then they use MPU or have awards, get an 89-90 at 5M, then trade retained. You can't always conflate this with real life because it's vastly different in terms of player development relative to contracts
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Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Sept 14, 2020 7:18:39 GMT -5
Yes but now you’re getting a better player at half the cost by trading the player that you legit just signed. Hurts the realism of the site cause we’d never see a trade like this irl. That's not exactly my fault... That initial contract existed because of how player upgrades exist on the site. Someone can sign a 5M-5.5M deal for an 85, they get upgraded to 87-88, then they use MPU or have awards, get an 89-90 at 5M, then trade retained. You can't always conflate this with real life because it's vastly different in terms of player development relative to contracts Developing a player is vastly different from signing a player from FA and then moving him immediately before he can even play a game for you.
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Post by Old Greg on Sept 14, 2020 9:34:27 GMT -5
Its fine lads, Murphy will probably be the last good free agent to sign in Detroit, and his contract extentions will likely cost more now. Idk about that lol I’ve seen Montreal Minny and Winnipeg all sign big fish free agent guys then within a year move them and don’t think it’s affected them. Guess at least they waited a year to trade them other than Montreal lol
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Post by Detroit Red Wings GM on Sept 14, 2020 10:21:01 GMT -5
Developing a player is vastly different from signing a player from FA and then moving him immediately before he can even play a game for you. Yeah good job ignoring the contents of what I actually said... really cool. The contract for which I'm trading has nothing to do with what you're saying. My point stands regardless; trading for players that get upgrades and having them retained can occur in an instance even if I weren't trading someone I just signed in free agency. But I guess that doesn't matter.
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Post by Old Greg on Sept 14, 2020 10:56:42 GMT -5
Developing a player is vastly different from signing a player from FA and then moving him immediately before he can even play a game for you. Yeah good job ignoring the contents of what I actually said... really cool. The contract for which I'm trading has nothing to do with what you're saying. My point stands regardless; trading for players that get upgrades and having them retained can occur in an instance even if I weren't trading someone I just signed in free agency. But I guess that doesn't matter. Lol what? I think you ignored what he said lol. Anyway this is accepted and final.
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Post by Detroit Red Wings GM on Sept 14, 2020 11:45:58 GMT -5
Lol what? I think you ignored what he said lol. Anyway this is accepted and final. People were complaining about the contract, so I was saying that a retained contract like that could exist in a trade regardless of a recently signed FA being included. Toronto said that developing is different than signing and trading FA, which is true, but that doesn't refute the fact that a trade like this could happen regardless of a recently signed FA being included. Anyway thanks for accepting it.
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Post by Old Greg on Sept 14, 2020 12:17:23 GMT -5
Lol what? I think you ignored what he said lol. Anyway this is accepted and final. People were complaining about the contract, so I was saying that a retained contract like that could exist in a trade regardless of a recently signed FA being included. Toronto said that developing is different than signing and trading FA, which is true, but that doesn't refute the fact that a trade like this could happen regardless of a recently signed FA being included. Anyway thanks for accepting it. Once again you’re missing his point lol but whatever lol
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