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Post by Seattle Kraken GM on Jul 31, 2020 11:59:18 GMT -5
Folks retaining salaries is getting too rampant and too ridiculous when folks are paying half salaries on $1M to $2M.
I'd suggest not allowing contracts under $3M to be retained at all or only up to 25% retention on contracts under $3M cuz folks are abusing it to the extent that something needs to be done about it.
Thanks.
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Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Jul 31, 2020 12:01:06 GMT -5
That would be the dumbest rule to implement. If I was a rebuilding team and could get assets for retaining on a contract then I'll do it. It happens irl all the time (Leafs three way trade with Chicago and Las Vegas for example).
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Post by joshlawrence on Jul 31, 2020 12:03:01 GMT -5
I don't see the point of that. Last I saw people were upset about retaining too much and now upset about too little? It is a very normal thing for salary to be retained, personally I don't see an issue with it
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2020 12:07:53 GMT -5
Seriously, this is ridiculous. There’s a rule already about how many you can retain at a time, plus the cap. You’re acting like rich teams are getting away with an advantage. This is a non issue I think
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Post by Seattle Kraken GM on Jul 31, 2020 12:13:44 GMT -5
I don't see the point of that. Last I saw people were upset about retaining too much and now upset about too little? It is a very normal thing for salary to be retained, personally I don't see an issue with it No, it's the retainments on players that shouldn't require any retainments cuz their cap hits are so low. Retainments are/should be for players with awful contracts, not something you can easily fix with a simple body swap. |
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Post by Seattle Kraken GM on Jul 31, 2020 12:17:23 GMT -5
Seriously, this is ridiculous. There’s a rule already about how many you can retain at a time, plus the cap. You’re acting like rich teams are getting away with an advantage. This is a non issue I think They are getting away with the advantage... Just take a look at the deals Calgary's been trying to make with MTL & NJD recently. How many we get isn't the point, paying half of a $1.2M is what's ridiculous. |
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Post by Old Greg on Jul 31, 2020 12:22:24 GMT -5
Like Carolina Hurricanes GM said there’s a rule. Don’t see any problem with people paying just don’t like when a 91 is signed long term and the gm is willing to pay half his salary for the whole term etc |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2020 12:23:35 GMT -5
I really don’t understand your point at all. So what? They only get 3. They want to waste them on .500k and etc, let them. They won’t be able to move out bigger contracts then.
There seems to a want to force personal managing philosophies on GMs. YOU think it’s wise to save retentions for large contracts, and that can be debated and hashed out through siming , and bull shitting on the boards, but to add a new rule that only large contracts can be retained is lame
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2020 12:27:01 GMT -5
Like Carolina Hurricanes GM said there’s a rule. Don’t see any problem with people paying just don’t like when a 91 is signed long term and the gm is willing to pay half his salary for the whole term etc Honestly, I know I tried to do it, but I get it. That’s why I think this is a weird argument. If anything, it seems like there’d be more support behind a cap on how LONG you can retain. Because that wasn’t stated when I tried my trades, but that rule makes sense. |
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Post by Seattle Kraken GM on Jul 31, 2020 12:29:05 GMT -5
I really don’t understand your point at all. So what? They only get 3. They want to waste them on .500k and etc, let them. They won’t be able to move out bigger contracts then. There seems to a want to force personal managing philosophies on GMs. YOU think it’s wise to save retentions for large contracts, and that can be debated and hashed out through siming , and bull shitting on the boards, but to add a new rule that only large contracts can be retained is lame That's what salary retention IS actually for, my eager young space cadet 😜 ...not piddly ass little contracts that you save 1¢ on the $1 on, when you can easily swap a body for those kind of savings. 🤷 |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2020 12:33:39 GMT -5
I really don’t understand your point at all. So what? They only get 3. They want to waste them on .500k and etc, let them. They won’t be able to move out bigger contracts then. There seems to a want to force personal managing philosophies on GMs. YOU think it’s wise to save retentions for large contracts, and that can be debated and hashed out through siming , and bull shitting on the boards, but to add a new rule that only large contracts can be retained is lame That's what salary retention IS actually for, my eager young space cadet 😜 ...not piddly ass little contracts that you save 1¢ on the $1 on, when you can easily swap a body for those kind of savings. 🤷 That’s what YOU use it for. It’s FOR cap management and maneuverability |
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Post by Seattle Kraken GM on Jul 31, 2020 12:38:47 GMT -5
That's what salary retention IS actually for, my eager young space cadet 😜 ...not piddly ass little contracts that you save 1¢ on the $1 on, when you can easily swap a body for those kind of savings. 🤷 That’s what YOU use it for. It’s FOR cap management and maneuverability Not when it's being abused, it's not. Tell me... How many players to you have that only make $600K? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2020 12:44:03 GMT -5
None, but I don’t give a shit. Bring this up when the league has a bunch of 80 players playing for 600k, but it’s not going to happen. MTL having Jankowski for 600k doesn’t matter to me at all.
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Post by Seattle Kraken GM on Jul 31, 2020 12:54:33 GMT -5
None, but I don’t give a shit. Bring this up when the league has a bunch of 80 players playing for 600k, but it’s not going to happen. MTL having Jankowski for 600k doesn’t matter to me at all. No, of course not cuz then you'd have to agree with nearly everyone else that your Doughty trade was shit. 😂😂 |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2020 12:58:19 GMT -5
None, but I don’t give a shit. Bring this up when the league has a bunch of 80 players playing for 600k, but it’s not going to happen. MTL having Jankowski for 600k doesn’t matter to me at all. No, of course not cuz then you'd have to agree with nearly everyone else that your Doughty trade was shit. 😂😂 I’ve already agreed that the DD retention was too long. That’s over and done with. That’s when a rule should’ve been proposed about a cap on how long retentions can be. But instead you’re bitching about Jankowski for 600k? Who gives a damn? |
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