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Post by New Jersey Devils GM on Jan 5, 2021 12:05:49 GMT -5
I'm just not getting why Dallas needs to dump 3 contracts before using his CBO, especially Khudobin. That contract isn't bad. If Dallas CBO's Faksa or Cogliano and then dumps Johns which he can easily do then he's fine. Maybe he's planning on using his CBO as a trade piece? But it seems pretty late for that, I think everyone has already had their contract situations dealt with for the most part. Even if he didn't need the cap space, dropping 8M in cap is huge for FA and looking a meh prospect for it is nothing major. But is he really going to go after anybody? They're both only on one year deals. Conformation from thehockeyist would be nice, because imo this really only makes sense if he wants to splurge in FA this offseason. Then again, who really cares what I think because I'm not a trade a mod  |
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Post by jmcook on Jan 5, 2021 12:10:37 GMT -5
rejected Dallas isn't getting anything in return here and Khudobin's contract isn't a bad contract at all lol. Very bad trade for Dallas
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Post by fisk33n on Jan 5, 2021 12:27:08 GMT -5
Now you all are using microscopes again.
This deal makes Sense for Dallas, he has not accepted here yet thou.
But IF I where Dallas, I would do this trade aswell. Dal still has a great starter, gets rid of THE bad contracts (sure 1 year. But gives cap space for now.)
Maybe even gives Dallas some capspace to shop in FA. I don't see THE problem here
Just becouse it is Dallas (Accept everything, use microscope to find errors. Dont Care of its fair or following any plans, must be wrong..) and LAK (THE traderaper. Use microscope, somewhere there might be something we can Call him out on)
Come on 😬 (i just woke Up, sorry if text is confusing😅)
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Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Jan 5, 2021 12:37:56 GMT -5
Now you all are using microscopes again. This deal makes Sense for Dallas, he has not accepted here yet thou. But IF I where Dallas, I would do this trade aswell. Dal still has a great starter, gets rid of THE bad contracts (sure 1 year. But gives cap space for now.) Maybe even gives Dallas some capspace to shop in FA. I don't see THE problem here Just becouse it is Dallas (Accept everything, use microscope to find errors. Dont Care of its fair or following any plans, must be wrong..) and LAK (THE traderaper. Use microscope, somewhere there might be something we can Call him out on) Come on 😬 (i just woke Up, sorry if text is confusing😅) Nah you got it spot on lol. This is a typical thing for any trade I make and if it's with Dallas, the likelihood of the deal being accepted is close to zero unless I'm losing the deal heavily. If this was any other two teams making this exact swap there would be zero comments. Also, Dallas has accepted the deal just an fyi. |
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Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Jan 5, 2021 12:39:05 GMT -5
3 accepts - 2 rejects (I'm assuming Lighting is a reject)
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Post by fisk33n on Jan 5, 2021 12:42:41 GMT -5
Oh I missed Dallas Accept post then 😅
Yeah I know, what I learned from rock'em was think "would i Accept this deal" and dont Care who is trading who.
Look at what both teams need/plans. And thru that Accept, reject or question THE trade.
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Post by gingerbreadman on Jan 5, 2021 12:48:02 GMT -5
I just don't understand the trade for Dallas, if his only goal is to get under the cap, why wouldn't he use his compliance buyout on Cogliano? That would solve all his cap problems. If he doesn't want to use his buyout on Cogliano and this trade is to get Dallas under the cap, I don't see any reason for the goalies to be in it. I'm pretty sure he still gets under the cap with them removed. Or if Dallas GM had intended to buyout Khudobin and this was to get a decent backup to replace him, I don't really see the need to have Stranges in the trade because Khudobin's contract is not that bad and he's an upgrade over Borssoit. I'm just a little confused on what Dallas is doing. This is why people commented on the 3 way deal so much, Dallas was going to have to gift players away to get under the cap because he's not using his compliance buyout for some reason.
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Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Jan 5, 2021 12:49:07 GMT -5
I just find it hilarious how you guys are talking about a one year deal not being much but then allowing the Broberg deal to go through while this is a huge deal. In that deal, it was one bad contract. Here it is two and Khudobin who for a backup is expensive ESPECIALLY if he gets downgraded, and there's three years on that contract. In return he loses a C class prospect.
Again, if this was any other two teams y'all wouldn't say a peep but I apparently have a plan to screw over everybody in the league.
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Post by New Jersey Devils GM on Jan 5, 2021 12:49:14 GMT -5
Oh I missed Dallas Accept post then 😅 Yeah I know, what I learned from rock'em was think "would i Accept this deal" and dont Care who is trading who. Look at what both teams need/plans. And thru that Accept, reject or question THE trade. I don't think you can look at a guy who between here and Rock 'em has nearly 40 trades rejected and just treat him like everybody else. You need some sort of extra measures regarding him because clearly him just going along like everyone else isn't working for him. |
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Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Jan 5, 2021 12:50:36 GMT -5
I just don't understand the trade for Dallas, if his only goal is to get under the cap, why wouldn't he use his compliance buyout on Cogliano? That would solve all his cap problems. If he doesn't want to use his buyout on Cogliano and this trade is to get Dallas under the cap, I don't see any reason for the goalies to be in it. I'm pretty sure he still gets under the cap with them removed. Or if Dallas GM had intended to buyout Khudobin and this was to get a decent backup to replace him, I don't really see the need to have Stranges in the trade because Khudobin's contract is not that bad and he's an upgrade over Borssoit. I'm just a little confused on what Dallas is doing. This is why people commented on the 3 way deal so much, Dallas was going to have to gift players away to get under the cap because he's not using his compliance buyout for some reason. He has Comeau and Palat to use his comp buyout on |
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Post by gingerbreadman on Jan 5, 2021 12:54:31 GMT -5
I just find it hilarious how you guys are talking about a one year deal not being much but then allowing the Broberg deal to go through while this is a huge deal. In that deal, it was one bad contract. Here it is two and Khudobin who for a backup is expensive ESPECIALLY if he gets downgraded, and there's three years on that contract. In return he loses a C class prospect. Again, if this was any other two teams y'all wouldn't say a peep but I apparently have a plan to screw over everybody in the league. For me, having you involved makes no difference, if Dallas GM explains why he did this trade, I might accept it. Cause he hasn't said anything other than accept, I don't know what to think. He might be using his buyout on Palat, I don't know. It's just weird to need to get under the cap and not use the compliance buyout he has available. I also rejected the Broberg trade. That was a garbage trade for Oilers no matter how he wants to explain his usage and the added APU. |
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Post by New Jersey Devils GM on Jan 5, 2021 12:54:39 GMT -5
I just find it hilarious how you guys are talking about a one year deal not being much but then allowing the Broberg deal to go through while this is a huge deal. In that deal, it was one bad contract. Here it is two and Khudobin who for a backup is expensive ESPECIALLY if he gets downgraded, and there's three years on that contract. In return he loses a C class prospect. Again, if this was any other two teams y'all wouldn't say a peep but I apparently have a plan to screw over everybody in the league. Stop trying to play this off as people having it out for you. The only trade mods who mad any mention of the GMs involved are Toronto who accepted and Kruze.. who is Kruze. Cook and Ducks didn't say a single thing about you or Dallas. The thought ever cross your mind that maybe this is a shitty deal for Dallas? |
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Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Jan 5, 2021 12:55:55 GMT -5
I just find it hilarious how you guys are talking about a one year deal not being much but then allowing the Broberg deal to go through while this is a huge deal. In that deal, it was one bad contract. Here it is two and Khudobin who for a backup is expensive ESPECIALLY if he gets downgraded, and there's three years on that contract. In return he loses a C class prospect. Again, if this was any other two teams y'all wouldn't say a peep but I apparently have a plan to screw over everybody in the league. Stop trying to play this off as people having it out for you. The only trade mods who mad any mention of the GMs involved are Toronto who accepted and Kruze.. who is Kruze. Cook and Ducks didn't say a single thing about you or Dallas. The thought ever cross your mind that maybe this is a shitty deal for Dallas? Why did you do the Broberg deal? |
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Post by New Jersey Devils GM on Jan 5, 2021 12:58:37 GMT -5
Stop trying to play this off as people having it out for you. The only trade mods who mad any mention of the GMs involved are Toronto who accepted and Kruze.. who is Kruze. Cook and Ducks didn't say a single thing about you or Dallas. The thought ever cross your mind that maybe this is a shitty deal for Dallas? Why did you do the Broberg deal? I already explained myself over there, you can go and look at that shitstorm of a thread if you want to see it. Difference is I actually provided an explanation.. something Dallas seems to think isn't necessary here. |
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Post by Old Greg on Jan 5, 2021 13:01:22 GMT -5
This trade is legit a gift for Dallas lol. None of these guys have much value. Guys Dallas is giving up has negative value
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