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CGY-DET
Jan 24, 2021 15:45:19 GMT -5
Post by Old Greg on Jan 24, 2021 15:45:19 GMT -5
Why would Suter downgrade so much when he's been fine? Was +15 at Vegas, only problem with my team was that I had a couple key pieces injured and my lines got messed up but once that was resolved I started winning again. I don't think Suter should be downgraded more than a couple overall max this offseason, and that's the logic I was using when making the trade He’s a twd so blocks and points I think
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CGY-DET
Jan 24, 2021 15:46:15 GMT -5
Post by Detroit Red Wings GM on Jan 24, 2021 15:46:15 GMT -5
Why would Suter downgrade so much when he's been fine? Was +15 at Vegas, only problem with my team was that I had a couple key pieces injured and my lines got messed up but once that was resolved I started winning again. I don't think Suter should be downgraded more than a couple overall max this offseason, and that's the logic I was using when making the trade He’s a twd so blocks and points I think Suter is a DFD bro lol
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CGY-DET
Jan 24, 2021 15:48:12 GMT -5
Post by Old Greg on Jan 24, 2021 15:48:12 GMT -5
He’s a twd so blocks and points I think Suter is a DFD bro lol Is he lol? Then hits and blocks I think
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CGY-DET
Jan 24, 2021 15:49:55 GMT -5
Post by Detroit Red Wings GM on Jan 24, 2021 15:49:55 GMT -5
Is he lol? Then hits and blocks I think Yes, that's why I was thinking a LD core of Giordano, Suter, and Cholowski would work well for Calgary this season then Cholowski could move up for him and become a number one or number two guy after upgrades and MPU. I definitely didn't think Suter would be considered for such huge downgrades lol
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CGY-DET
Jan 24, 2021 15:55:37 GMT -5
Post by New York Rangers GM on Jan 24, 2021 15:55:37 GMT -5
i'll reject
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CGY-DET
Jan 24, 2021 15:57:45 GMT -5
Post by gingerbreadman on Jan 24, 2021 15:57:45 GMT -5
Suter is Blocks + Points until he gets below 86 OA and then becomes Hits + Points. And no matter how much lipstick you put on a pig, it's still a pig. This trade is a shit trade for the Flames. You are saying Flames should play Suter on his 3rd pairing next year and crater his value even more. Plus he needs to use MPU on Cholowski to make this trade have any value to Calgary.
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CGY-DET
Jan 24, 2021 15:58:55 GMT -5
Post by gingerbreadman on Jan 24, 2021 15:58:55 GMT -5
Trade has already been Accepted by 5 trade mods, so it's final.
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CGY-DET
Jan 24, 2021 16:02:16 GMT -5
Post by Detroit Red Wings GM on Jan 24, 2021 16:02:16 GMT -5
Seeing what Minny posted I would change my accept to a reject but I won’t go back on my word. So sucks for Flames so unless wings is a good guy and backs out flames is screwed lol With what Pittsburgh said and the fact this is already final I don't think I'd back out now, especially since I already updated my roster and lines. I still think this is fair and will work out for Calgary this season. I definitely disagree with Suter being downgraded so hard though but even then he can become Calgary's third pair guy and Cholowski can move up after upgrades. Cholowski could become an 85 after MPU and be the same next season as Hanifin is now.
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CGY-DET
Jan 24, 2021 16:04:36 GMT -5
Post by Detroit Red Wings GM on Jan 24, 2021 16:04:36 GMT -5
Suter is Blocks + Points until he gets below 86 OA and then becomes Hits + Points. And no matter how much lipstick you put on a pig, it's still a pig. This trade is a shit trade for the Flames. You are saying Flames should play Suter on his 3rd pairing next year and crater his value even more. Plus he needs to use MPU on Cholowski to make this trade have any value to Calgary. Well that's not what I was thinking going into the deal. Suter in real life isn't known as a high CF high xGF kinda guy; he's a pure DFD and that's how he sims in EA games too. Do note that he was playing Giordano second line which cradled his value. It's a matter of perspective.
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CGY-DET
Jan 24, 2021 16:05:02 GMT -5
Post by Minnesota Wild GM on Jan 24, 2021 16:05:02 GMT -5
Seeing what Minny posted I would change my accept to a reject but I won’t go back on my word. So sucks for Flames so unless wings is a good guy and backs out flames is screwed lol With what Pittsburgh said and the fact this is already final I don't think I'd back out now, especially since I already updated my roster and lines. I still think this is fair and will work out for Calgary this season. I definitely disagree with Suter being downgraded so hard though but even then he can become Calgary's third pair guy and Cholowski can move up after upgrades. Cholowski could become an 85 after MPU and be the same next season as Hanifin is now. Yeah its Final - and that doesnt really make sense for CGY when he has Hanifin at 87 next year without MPU and can just slot in Juolevi as 3rd LD and grow him as an asset opposed to having Suter just slowly die on the blueline and carry a cap hit that will be a disadvantage for when Gaudreau contract negotiations take place next season
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CGY-DET
Jan 24, 2021 16:15:48 GMT -5
Post by Old Greg on Jan 24, 2021 16:15:48 GMT -5
Seeing what Minny posted I would change my accept to a reject but I won’t go back on my word. So sucks for Flames so unless wings is a good guy and backs out flames is screwed lol With what Pittsburgh said and the fact this is already final I don't think I'd back out now, especially since I already updated my roster and lines. I still think this is fair and will work out for Calgary this season. I definitely disagree with Suter being downgraded so hard though but even then he can become Calgary's third pair guy and Cholowski can move up after upgrades. Cholowski could become an 85 after MPU and be the same next season as Hanifin is now. Lol obviously you wouldn’t but you did snake this guy and took advantage of Calgary lol. Just fisted him
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CGY-DET
Jan 24, 2021 16:20:32 GMT -5
Post by Detroit Red Wings GM on Jan 24, 2021 16:20:32 GMT -5
With what Pittsburgh said and the fact this is already final I don't think I'd back out now, especially since I already updated my roster and lines. I still think this is fair and will work out for Calgary this season. I definitely disagree with Suter being downgraded so hard though but even then he can become Calgary's third pair guy and Cholowski can move up after upgrades. Cholowski could become an 85 after MPU and be the same next season as Hanifin is now. Lol obviously you wouldn’t but you did snake this guy and took advantage of Calgary lol. Just fisted him I gave him an offer I thought was fair and he accepted, lol. DFD seem to be getting the short end of the stick with upgrades/downgrades. If it weren't already final with my roster updated I'd consider going back on it but it's too late now. Wouldn't have gone through if it were as bad as you're suggesting
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CGY-DET
Jan 24, 2021 16:22:05 GMT -5
Post by gingerbreadman on Jan 24, 2021 16:22:05 GMT -5
I didn't know updating rosters were so hard
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CGY-DET
Jan 24, 2021 16:31:06 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Jan 24, 2021 16:31:06 GMT -5
Our job as mods is to protect those who don’t understand the rules well enough yet. That was missed here and Flames got screwed hardcore. Lucky for Flames he not only got out of a terrible contract but also gained a top pairing guy for the next decade out of it
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CGY-DET
Jan 24, 2021 16:39:46 GMT -5
Post by Old Greg on Jan 24, 2021 16:39:46 GMT -5
Lol obviously you wouldn’t but you did snake this guy and took advantage of Calgary lol. Just fisted him I gave him an offer I thought was fair and he accepted, lol. DFD seem to be getting the short end of the stick with upgrades/downgrades. If it weren't already final with my roster updated I'd consider going back on it but it's too late now. Wouldn't have gone through if it were as bad as you're suggesting Well if you want I can update your roster for you
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