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Post by New York Rangers GM on Feb 3, 2021 16:58:24 GMT -5
Now I understand this comes on the verge of my team winning the cup but I wanted to talk about the Stanley Cup winning bonus. Currently the bonus is +1 MPU and +1 APU (same as Presidents winner AND Calder winner). I am thinking we should change it to giving the winning team + 2 OA to spend how they like. This comes after the fact that players who win awards are awarded +1 OA per award they win (giving McDavid a +1 is equivalent to giving a team +5 MPU...) I argue that the Stanley Cup is MUCH harder to win in sim leagues than any other award and should that success should receive a larger reward than those who have won others. Minnesota Wild GM thought it would be a good idea to see what others think. Obviously I realize that this benefits me more than anyone else currently, but I'm not really expecting to have my success duplicated so this would apply to anyone else that wins the cup. Vote for your opinion
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Post by Old Greg on Feb 3, 2021 17:22:08 GMT -5
I think the winning team should get minus makes more sense if we’re trying to be real since the cup winner is usually worse off the following year..... but I guess in all seriousness making it however you want is fine
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Post by fisk33n on Feb 3, 2021 18:10:20 GMT -5
Yeah overall makes more sence imo
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Post by New Jersey Devils GM on Feb 3, 2021 18:17:20 GMT -5
+2 OA to each player is kind of nutty imo. You want to tell me some bum up in the press box deserves a +2 because his team did well, but McDavid doesn't deserve to be upgraded even though he had the most points in the league? I think Rock 'Em showed McDavid isn't an auto lock for PPG, he was playing with Gaurdeau all year and only netted 70. Maybe you could say +1 OA to all players and another +1 to the Conn Smythe winner or something, but rewarding a team award with a bunch of individual upgrades is pretty backwards. You yourself said that voting for McDavid is "just keeping the elite players elite" or something along those lines but this isn't keeping elite teams elite? Alright.
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Post by New York Rangers GM on Feb 3, 2021 18:20:16 GMT -5
+2 OA to each player is kind of nutty imo. You want to tell me some bum up in the press box deserves a +2 because his team did well, but McDavid doesn't deserve to be upgraded even though he had the most points in the league? I think Rock 'Em showed McDavid isn't an auto lock for PPG, he was playing with Gaurdeau all year and only netted 70. Maybe you could say +1 OA to all players and another +1 to the Conn Smythe winner or something, but rewarding a team award with a bunch of individual upgrades is pretty backwards. You yourself said that voting for McDavid is "just keeping the elite players elite" or something along those lines but this isn't keeping elite teams elite? Alright. no no no, you read that wrong. +2 OA to give to any 2 players on the team. NOT every player (that's insane).
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Post by Ottawa Senators GM on Feb 3, 2021 18:20:29 GMT -5
Definitely not +2 overall.
If you're going to use the McDavid comparison, this could be like giving the cup winner an extra +10 MPU, which... yikes.
I could see doing something like Stanley Cup winner gets an extra +3 MPU (no APU bonus), Presidents Trophy an extra +2 MPU (no APU bonus), and Calder Cup winner an extra +2 or +3 APU (no MPU bonus)
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Post by New Jersey Devils GM on Feb 3, 2021 18:22:22 GMT -5
+2 OA to each player is kind of nutty imo. You want to tell me some bum up in the press box deserves a +2 because his team did well, but McDavid doesn't deserve to be upgraded even though he had the most points in the league? I think Rock 'Em showed McDavid isn't an auto lock for PPG, he was playing with Gaurdeau all year and only netted 70. Maybe you could say +1 OA to all players and another +1 to the Conn Smythe winner or something, but rewarding a team award with a bunch of individual upgrades is pretty backwards. You yourself said that voting for McDavid is "just keeping the elite players elite" or something along those lines but this isn't keeping elite teams elite? Alright. no no no, you read that wrong. +2 OA to give to any 2 players on the team. NOT every player (that's insane). Ohhhhhhhhh. My bad, my bad. Still though, I think just giving them more MPU/APU than just one each is better then +1 OA to one player. The reward for winning the Stanley and the Calder being the same is a little weird.
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Post by New York Rangers GM on Feb 3, 2021 18:23:34 GMT -5
Definitely not +2 overall. If you're going to use the McDavid comparison, this could be like giving the cup winner an extra +10 MPU, which... yikes. I could see doing something like Stanley Cup winner gets an extra +3 MPU, Presidents Trophy an extra +2 MPU, and Calder Cup winner an extra +2 APU (no MPU for Calder cup winner) This makes sense as well. But even when you look at McDavid, if he wins 3 awards, he'd get a +3 (which is like a +15). It sucks when you win the cup and the only one you could boost an overall is a 78-82 OA... I'd be fine with something like: SC winner: +4 MPU (enough to boost one star an overall) Presidents: +2 MPU Calder: +2 APU OR just don't give bonuses for any winners?
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Post by Ottawa Senators GM on Feb 3, 2021 18:30:58 GMT -5
OR just don't give bonuses for any winners? I could see either limiting the amount of overalls a guy can get by winning awards each season (so like a max of +2) or, probably the better option, limiting the max overall a player can be upgraded with awards (to 95 maybe?)
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Post by New York Rangers GM on Feb 3, 2021 18:40:35 GMT -5
OR just don't give bonuses for any winners? I could see either limiting the amount of overalls a guy can get by winning awards each season (so like a max of +2) or, probably the better option, limiting the max overall a player can be upgraded with awards (to 95 maybe?) I could see this as well. Perhaps this system would work: SC champs = +4 MPU Presidents = + 2 MPU Calder = + 2 APU Each player award = +1 MPU to that team (so if McDavid wins 3 awards, EDM gets +3 MPU)
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