|
Post by Seattle Kraken GM on Jul 13, 2022 9:52:02 GMT -5
Both parties leave the deal with a return that they're happy with and more importantly A TRADE THAT IS 100% LEGITAMITE. No they don't, cuz I wouldn't trade Quinn, or Hughes, anyways, for that matter. lol The only one leaving happy, in that trade, would be you. I probably wouldn't give you any of that for Stamkos.
|
|
|
Post by Seattle Kraken GM on Jul 13, 2022 9:54:21 GMT -5
So are you not wanting to do Panarin for Quinn? I already told you I didn't cuz Quinn isn't available.
|
|
|
Post by Nashville Predators GM on Jul 13, 2022 10:07:35 GMT -5
I mean, on the flip side, never trading certain players and keeping them for life is also a detriment in a fictional sim league.
|
|
|
Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Jul 13, 2022 10:11:34 GMT -5
Both parties leave the deal with a return that they're happy with and more importantly A TRADE THAT IS 100% LEGITAMITE. No they don't, cuz I wouldn't trade Quinn, or Hughes, anyways, for that matter. lol The only one leaving happy, in that trade, would be you. I probably wouldn't give you any of that for Stamkos. It was a hypothetical trade to make a point.
|
|
|
Post by Carolina Hurricanes GM on Jul 13, 2022 10:18:18 GMT -5
What are you even going on about anymore? I’m not even sure what this is about at this point. Bad offers? This coming from the guy with no trade block posted? Offers trying to get young guys and picks? Well, like I said you’re willing to give up those picks to offersheet Yams, but not in a deal. But then you want to say everyone else is being disingenuous? K
Now you’re making it about retention rules that are same for everyone, posted clearly, and follow irl. Being frustrated is fine. But attempting to call people out and making a big production because you’re not getting the offers you want is pretty lame.
Everyone deals with the same stuff here. People still ask about Aho when they know damn well that ain’t happening. Move on, maybe make a trade block with all the Kruze Wills/Wonts see how that works out
|
|
|
Post by Seattle Kraken GM on Jul 13, 2022 11:02:15 GMT -5
Cap retention works two ways. The person retaining has available cap that they otherwise wouldn't be using. Why would I not retain cap if I can get more in a deal if I did? The person paying to have cap retained needs more cap room and will be willing to pay a prospect or pick (maybe even more depending on the retention) in order to get that. Oh shut your hole with your "man-splaining", Captain Obvious/John Madden bullshit dude. 🙄 If you can't afford a player, unless it's a rental, then don't trade for that player. Simple as that. I don't set out to screw folks and fleece them in deals like you do; And don't say that you don't, cuz you've told me that you do. That's literally the furthest thing from my mind. I look at overall, cap hit, then age to see if the offer needs a bit of an even up in the latter. That's pretty much it, unless I am actually trying to move younger talent for a veteran. It's not fucking rocket science here. 🤷 The problem I run into the most is that no one really wants to trade for anyone over 26-27 unless they're an 88/89+, or they got an upgrade, and they're contract is amazing, but no one even wants to pay up for that either. Then you get into "Well, I ONLY want this guy.", a guy that's not on the block, and that you've been told isn't available, several times... Cuz guess what? I want him too, or else he would be on the block & available. Period. The way these leagues are structured now, every team needs their development players, picks & prospects. It's not like before, where you could get away with only having 1 or 2. Yet that's the only thing anyone wants in trades anymore, and guys approach you and just assume you're going to give them all your young players. It's bullshit... Cuz we're not. It doesn't matter how much I, or anyone else, appreciates the more veteran players, or not... The fact is that we all need younger players, it's not just you, but you guys still get pissed off and do this trolling shit cuz I won't trade you Beniers, Quinn, Hughes, or whomever, all because there's this fictitious belief, in our entire community, that I'll just trade all my picks & prospects for veterans, which hasn't been the case for almost 10 years. 🤷 You'd think you guys would've gotten the memo by now.
|
|
|
Post by New York Rangers GM on Jul 13, 2022 11:14:08 GMT -5
So are you not wanting to do Panarin for Quinn? I already told you I didn't cuz Quinn isn't available. I once dated a girl who wasn’t available
|
|
|
Post by Seattle Kraken GM on Jul 13, 2022 12:08:20 GMT -5
I already told you I didn't cuz Quinn isn't available. I once dated a girl who wasn’t available So what? I've had sex with married women too. What's your point? 🤔🤨 It doesn't change the fact that I'm not trading Quinn. lol
|
|
|
Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Jul 13, 2022 12:09:01 GMT -5
Cap retention works two ways. The person retaining has available cap that they otherwise wouldn't be using. Why would I not retain cap if I can get more in a deal if I did? The person paying to have cap retained needs more cap room and will be willing to pay a prospect or pick (maybe even more depending on the retention) in order to get that. Oh shut your hole with your "man-splaining", Captain Obvious/John Madden bullshit dude. 🙄 If you can't afford a player, unless it's a rental, then don't trade for that player. Simple as that. Clearly you need the "man-splaining" when you still try to argue that trading for a player with multiple years of retention shouldn't be allowed. Guess what just happened irl, San Jose traded Burns to Carolina with 33% retention for the DURATION of his contract (3 years left). If the NHL allows it irl it should be allowed here, it's as simple as that so stop your bitching and trade Rangers Quinn.
|
|
|
Post by Minnesota Wild GM on Jul 13, 2022 12:09:24 GMT -5
I once dated a girl who wasn’t available So what? I've had sex with married women too. What's your point? 🤔🤨 It doesn't change the fact that I'm not trading Quinn. lol Porn doesn't count
|
|
|
Post by Seattle Kraken GM on Jul 13, 2022 12:22:03 GMT -5
Oh shut your hole with your "man-splaining", Captain Obvious/John Madden bullshit dude. 🙄 If you can't afford a player, unless it's a rental, then don't trade for that player. Simple as that. Clearly you need the "man-splaining" when you still try to argue that trading for a player with multiple years of retention shouldn't be allowed. Guess what just happened irl, San Jose traded Burns to Carolina with 33% retention for the DURATION of his contract (3 years left). If the NHL allows it irl it should be allowed here, it's as simple as that so stop your bitching and trade Rangers Quinn. No, you're still just a punk kid who thinks he knows everything, about everything. 🙄 Which is fine, to a point, cuz we've all been there... But the thing is that I agree that it should be allowed, but it needs to be reigned in and restricted a bit more for our format cuz it's becoming rampant with nearly every 2nd to 3rd deal being some sort of retention deal. That's not realistic. Sorry, but it's not... Folks are abusing it, and being lazy, instead of making a proper trade.
|
|
|
Post by Seattle Kraken GM on Jul 13, 2022 12:23:22 GMT -5
So what? I've had sex with married women too. What's your point? 🤔🤨 It doesn't change the fact that I'm not trading Quinn. lol Porn doesn't count You're right... It doesn't. I wasn't talking about porn. 😂😂
|
|
|
Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Jul 13, 2022 12:23:26 GMT -5
Clearly you need the "man-splaining" when you still try to argue that trading for a player with multiple years of retention shouldn't be allowed. Guess what just happened irl, San Jose traded Burns to Carolina with 33% retention for the DURATION of his contract (3 years left). If the NHL allows it irl it should be allowed here, it's as simple as that so stop your bitching and trade Rangers Quinn. No, you're still just a punk kid who thinks he knows everything, about everything. 🙄 Which is fine, to a point, cuz we've all been there... But the thing is that I agree that it should be allowed, but it needs to be reigned in and restricted a bit more for our format cuz it's becoming rampant with nearly every 2nd to 3rd deal being some sort of retention deal. That's not realistic. Sorry, but it's not... Folks are abusing it, and being lazy, instead of making a proper trade. A proper trade can include retention
|
|
|
Post by San Jose Sharks GM on Jul 13, 2022 12:30:45 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by Seattle Kraken GM on Jul 13, 2022 12:31:27 GMT -5
No, you're still just a punk kid who thinks he knows everything, about everything. 🙄 Which is fine, to a point, cuz we've all been there... But the thing is that I agree that it should be allowed, but it needs to be reigned in and restricted a bit more for our format cuz it's becoming rampant with nearly every 2nd to 3rd deal being some sort of retention deal. That's not realistic. Sorry, but it's not... Folks are abusing it, and being lazy, instead of making a proper trade. A proper trade can include retention Yes, but not almost every fucking trade. 🤷 Shit, you even posted a long ass list of how many trades have involved retention since we started, and you still don't fucking get it. 🙄
|
|