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Post by jmcook on Feb 7, 2020 9:08:57 GMT -5
 Gets RW Patrick Kane SNP 96 - 10.5M UFA 2023 - NMC (33) *CHI pays 3.5M CapHit 7.0M LD Victor Mete TWD 85 - 2.5M RFA 2023 (23) TBL 3rd 2022  Get RD Henri Jokiharju TWD 88 - 7.5M UFA 2026 (23) RW Victor Olofsson SNP 88 - 4.2M UFA 2025 (27) RW Alexander Nylander TWF 86 - 4.5M UFA 2025 (24) BUF 1st,2nd,3rd,4th,5th 2023 accepted Changed it so he wasn't getting all the boosters, just exchanging 3rds |
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Post by St. Louis Blues GM on Feb 7, 2020 9:18:24 GMT -5
so its two 88s = the best player in the league with 3m retained
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Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Feb 7, 2020 9:18:55 GMT -5
Nylander = Mete + 3rd. 3rd is included because Nylander is signed for 2 more years after this while Mete is signed for just this season plus Nylander is an overall higher. Jokiharju + Olofsson + 3rd = Kane. Olofsson has arguably the best contract on the site, Jokiharju is signed long term, young, and an 88 overall RD. 3rd is included as a little boost to add some value. Not to mention Kane will need a new contract after this season and will likely be asking for a raise that Tampa most likely wouldn't be able to afford.  Accepts |
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Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Feb 7, 2020 9:19:24 GMT -5
so its two 88s = the best player in the league with 3m retained When you consider age and contracts I would say yes. |
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Post by St. Louis Blues GM on Feb 7, 2020 9:24:32 GMT -5
so its two 88s = the best player in the league with 3m retained When you consider age and contracts I would say yes. I know the guy receiving the 96 would say yes |
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Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Feb 7, 2020 9:27:50 GMT -5
When you consider age and contracts I would say yes. I know the guy receiving the 96 would say yes The guy trading him is also saying yes... Legit, I get your arguments but at the end of the day he's 33. Jokiharju is 23, and Olofsson is 26. 3 seasons down the line, they both will have more value than him based on age alone. All it will take is one bad season and Kane's value will take a massive blow because he can't receive performance upgrades anymore. |
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Post by St. Louis Blues GM on Feb 7, 2020 9:34:45 GMT -5
I know the guy receiving the 96 would say yes The guy trading him is also saying yes... Legit, I get your arguments but at the end of the day he's 33. Jokiharju is 23, and Olofsson is 26. 3 seasons down the line, they both will have more value than him based on age alone. All it will take is one bad season and Kane's value will take a massive blow because he can't receive performance upgrades anymore. What are my arguments? You can play the what if scenario any way you'd like with any player you like. If we want to play with facts, he had 72 goals last year. |
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Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Feb 7, 2020 9:41:44 GMT -5
The guy trading him is also saying yes... Legit, I get your arguments but at the end of the day he's 33. Jokiharju is 23, and Olofsson is 26. 3 seasons down the line, they both will have more value than him based on age alone. All it will take is one bad season and Kane's value will take a massive blow because he can't receive performance upgrades anymore. What are my arguments? You can play the what if scenario any way you'd like with any player you like. If we want to play with facts, he had 72 goals last year. Your argument is that he's the best player in the league and you think that he should be worth more than two 88s. And what's the likelihood of him getting 72 goals again? Also, you're only looking at one thing. You haven't taken into consideration age or contracts. If Kane was a 25 year old signed for another 5 years, then yeah, I'd agree this isn't enough but that's not the case. He's 33 on an expiring contract, that affects his value. |
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Post by Vancouver Canucks GM on Feb 7, 2020 9:41:45 GMT -5
I'm not sure why guys are hating on this deal. Two veteran GM's trying to make a deal to improve their teams (in their eyes). Would we all make the same deal? Of course not. We all have different opinions of value. There's no cheating or 'taking advantage' of anyone here. Let the guys make the deal. It's not outlandish.
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Post by St. Louis Blues GM on Feb 7, 2020 9:50:24 GMT -5
I'm not hating on the deal. I didn't even reject it. I said so does two 88s = a 96 and Joubran got defensive. I played along.
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Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Feb 7, 2020 9:53:25 GMT -5
How did I get defensive? I answered your question with my reasonings for why I believe it would in this scenario.
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Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Feb 7, 2020 10:35:12 GMT -5
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Post by Minnesota Wild GM on Feb 7, 2020 12:08:13 GMT -5
I'm not sure why guys are hating on this deal. Two veteran GM's trying to make a deal to improve their teams (in their eyes). Would we all make the same deal? Of course not. We all have different opinions of value. There's no cheating or 'taking advantage' of anyone here. Let the guys make the deal. It's not outlandish. .. IDGAF if there's two vets making this deal or if there are two newbies making this deal, value is value and I dont see it equal here.. Reject |
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Post by Old Greg on Feb 7, 2020 12:18:40 GMT -5
Wait so if Buffalo also acquired an 81 in this deal and the overalls matched up does this make it fair lol?
Thats a legit question btw. Just curious
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Post by jmcook on Feb 7, 2020 12:22:51 GMT -5
so what do we have 2 accepts and 1 reject so far
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