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Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Aug 26, 2020 9:05:19 GMT -5
3 accepts - 3 rejects
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2020 9:06:09 GMT -5
Make sure to like the post if you approve it
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Post by gingerbreadman on Aug 26, 2020 9:06:43 GMT -5
I just don't get how this is accepted with no problems but somehow my deals always have issues. Ffs can we have some damn consitency. I swear you guys just see my name and automatically think I'm trying to fuck somebody over. hockleague.freeforums.net/thread/8395/panthers-penguinsThis is not me voting. I have to agree with you on this. It seems weird to let the panthers trade go thru so easily and not this one. Panthers gave up nothing for Suter. Going by that trade and how easily it was accepted, Tampa Bay Lightning GM should be taking players out of trade and not adding to it. If GMs are using "Precedent". Only thing I'm hesitant about is the 50% on half his contract for duration but that seems like a common go to for lots of GMs and I think its just a preference thing by me.
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Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Aug 26, 2020 9:07:10 GMT -5
Make sure to like the post if you approve it A like or verbal acceptance are both suitable.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2020 9:09:06 GMT -5
I just don't get how this is accepted with no problems but somehow my deals always have issues. Ffs can we have some damn consitency. I swear you guys just see my name and automatically think I'm trying to fuck somebody over. hockleague.freeforums.net/thread/8395/panthers-penguinsThis is not me voting. I have to agree with you on this. It seems weird to let the panthers trade go thru so easily and not this one. Panthers gave up nothing for Suter. Going by that trade and how easily it was accepted, Tampa Bay Lightning GM should be taking players out of trade and not adding to it. If GMs are using "Precedent". Only thing I'm hesitant about is the 50% on half his contract for duration but that seems like a common go to for lots of GMs and I think its just a preference thing by me. Its about the retention, and Suter is a year older, and way more likely to be downgraded. 91 OA for 5M is worth more. It’s not an equivalent comparison. Go back to the DD LAK-TOR reject if you want a comparable.
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Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Aug 26, 2020 9:09:18 GMT -5
I just don't get how this is accepted with no problems but somehow my deals always have issues. Ffs can we have some damn consitency. I swear you guys just see my name and automatically think I'm trying to fuck somebody over. hockleague.freeforums.net/thread/8395/panthers-penguinsThis is not me voting. I have to agree with you on this. It seems weird to let the panthers trade go thru so easily and not this one. Panthers gave up nothing for Suter. Going by that trade and how easily it was accepted, Tampa Bay Lightning GM should be taking players out of trade and not adding to it. If GMs are using "Precedent". Only thing I'm hesitant about is the 50% on half his contract for duration but that seems like a common go to for lots of GMs and I think its just a preference thing by me. There were assets added for the retention and since Caps is going into a rebuild, it was better for both of us for him to retain cap. He gets assets for his cap space, I get some cap space and the ability to make the trade. Plus the retention is only for the this season and next, that cap won't affect Caps during the beginning of his rebuild and could potentially even need that cap to stay above the cap floor once he's fully in his rebuild.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2020 9:10:05 GMT -5
Make sure to like the post if you approve it A like or verbal acceptance are both suitable. It’d be way easier if everyone just liked the post so you don’t have to re-read it
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Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Aug 26, 2020 9:13:28 GMT -5
This is not me voting. I have to agree with you on this. It seems weird to let the panthers trade go thru so easily and not this one. Panthers gave up nothing for Suter. Going by that trade and how easily it was accepted, Tampa Bay Lightning GM should be taking players out of trade and not adding to it. If GMs are using "Precedent". Only thing I'm hesitant about is the 50% on half his contract for duration but that seems like a common go to for lots of GMs and I think its just a preference thing by me. Its about the retention, and Suter is a year older, and way more likely to be downgraded. 91 OA for 5M is worth more. It’s not an equivalent comparison. Go back to the DD LAK-TOR reject if you want a comparable. Our retention was until 2025, not 2023 and Doughty is younger than Ovi is. The two are not comparable.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2020 9:19:20 GMT -5
Our retention was until 2025, not 2023 and Doughty is younger than Ovi is. The two are not comparable. But the DD deal was a bigger risk for you. This is no risk, no real assets given up. I don’t think it’s fair.
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Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Aug 26, 2020 9:23:23 GMT -5
Our retention was until 2025, not 2023 and Doughty is younger than Ovi is. The two are not comparable. But the DD deal was a bigger risk for you. This is no risk, no real assets given up. I don’t think it’s fair. If Robertson stays, I will make him into a top 6 player. How you don't think that I'm giving up nothing but accepted the Pens/Panthers deal is beyond me. I'm giving up more value than there was in that deal. We're looking at irl value based on names and not their sim league value based on their overall and age. Suter is 90/36 Ovi is 91/35 I gave up better players and 2 1sts and a 2nd. This should not even be a discussion with that deal going through.
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Post by gingerbreadman on Aug 26, 2020 9:24:42 GMT -5
Our retention was until 2025, not 2023 and Doughty is younger than Ovi is. The two are not comparable. But the DD deal was a bigger risk for you. This is no risk, no real assets given up. I don’t think it’s fair. You have that backwards, i think this deal is riskier. They could just have Ovi retire after this season and Leafs would be left with nothing. Seems like sour grapes on your part and too me, making you slightly biased. He's giving up 2 1sts and Robertson, that'a not nothing. Just because you give up your firsts so easily doesn't mean other teams usually do.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2020 9:27:45 GMT -5
Ovechkin and Suter are not comparable. I don’t care how much you guys copy and paste their OA. One is 60+ goal scoring machine. You SHOULD be giving up more no matter how bad that Suter trade was. Just because that trade was bad, doesn’t mean we just let the next garbage trade go through.
Enough with the overvaluing players rated 80-82 that are aged between 20-23. Seriously. You can’t boost them. They can just get +3 at most, and you NEED good players to play them with to even get that.
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Post by Old Greg on Aug 26, 2020 9:30:23 GMT -5
Reject. I’d be fine with this deal if the cap retainment is 1 year or 2-3 million throughout
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Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Aug 26, 2020 9:31:02 GMT -5
And what if Ovi gets injured? He can get a -5 lmao. But whatever, do what you guys want lol. All I ask for consistency, if you accept the Suter deal then this should be accepted too.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2020 9:31:27 GMT -5
But the DD deal was a bigger risk for you. This is no risk, no real assets given up. I don’t think it’s fair. You have that backwards, i think this deal is riskier. They could just have Ovi retire after this season and Leafs would be left with nothing. Seems like sour grapes on your part and too me, making you slightly biased. He's giving up 2 1sts and Robertson, that'a not nothing. Just because you give up your firsts so easily doesn't mean other teams usually do. Nope. A precedent was set about ripping off new GMs. OV isn’t going to retire. And I don’t know how many times I’ve been told 1st rd picks from contending teams are practically worthless. Re-read all those old threads if you want. I believe it was COL GM that’s stated it clearly to me Ive maybe rejected a total of 3 trades. I just don’t think this is fair at all.
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