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Post by Old Greg on Aug 26, 2020 9:45:23 GMT -5
And what if Ovi gets injured? He can get a -5 lmao. But whatever, do what you guys want lol. All I ask for consistency, if you accept the Suter deal then this should be accepted too. Minny told me when I started that injuries don’t affect upgrades/downgrades. And by that rationale, what if any player gets injured? So now value is all hypotheticals? Lame Not sure about that unless upgrades are done on a per game basis Minnesota Wild GM? |
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Post by Player Rep on Aug 26, 2020 9:45:49 GMT -5
Not too sure how you figure that it looks good on paper either. The picks aren't really worth that much if you go on the premise that Leafs will be a contender/top team in the league and they'll be top 25-30 overall picks. People kept saying I would be top of the league last season and I ended up with the 19th pick lol. Takes one injury to ruin a season. You can't value my pick as worthless when we don't even know what pick it is. I mean you did say "We ask for him to waive hit NTC to come to Toronto and help lead this team to their first cup in 55 years." when asking Ovi to waive his NTC so thats why I was valuing your picks as 30/31 |
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Post by Player Rep on Aug 26, 2020 9:47:20 GMT -5
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Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Aug 26, 2020 9:49:01 GMT -5
People kept saying I would be top of the league last season and I ended up with the 19th pick lol. Takes one injury to ruin a season. You can't value my pick as worthless when we don't even know what pick it is. I mean you did say "We ask for him to waive hit NTC to come to Toronto and help lead this team to their first cup in 55 years." when asking Ovi to waive his NTC so thats why I was valuing your picks as 30/31 That's the goal, yes. But if it becomes reality is all a question. I had the same goal last season and got the 19th pick lol |
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Post by Old Greg on Aug 26, 2020 9:50:36 GMT -5
I actually didn’t know that ppg thing till gingerbreadman told me when this era started lol. Guess I never paid attention for the last however many seasons |
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Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Aug 26, 2020 9:52:15 GMT -5
I actually didn’t know that ppg thing till gingerbreadman told me when this era started lol. Guess I never paid attention for the last however many seasons I thought the same thing lol. Thought it was based on point totals. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2020 9:52:32 GMT -5
I mean you did say "We ask for him to waive hit NTC to come to Toronto and help lead this team to their first cup in 55 years." when asking Ovi to waive his NTC so thats why I was valuing your picks as 30/31 That's the goal, yes. But if it becomes reality is all a question. I had the same goal last season and got the 19th pick lol So basically because you’re not guaranteed anything besides the best goal scorer this generation has seen, for 2 seasons, you shouldn’t have to give up fair value? Because that’s kinda what it seems like you’re saying. He might get injured, he might get downgraded, he might whatever. And you might win the cup, and he might lead the league in every stat that matters. Whats your point? |
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Post by Seattle Kraken GM on Aug 26, 2020 9:56:44 GMT -5
That's the goal, yes. But if it becomes reality is all a question. I had the same goal last season and got the 19th pick lol So basically because you’re not guaranteed anything besides the best goal scorer this generation has seen, for 2 seasons, you shouldn’t have to give up fair value? Because that’s kinda what it seems like you’re saying. He might get injured, he might get downgraded, he might whatever. And you might win the cup, and he might lead the league in every stat that matters. Whats your point? Oh, and don't forget that Leafs picks are somehow platinum plated & worth more than everyone else's, even being projected in the bottom of the draft order. 😂😂😂 |
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Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Aug 26, 2020 9:57:03 GMT -5
That's the goal, yes. But if it becomes reality is all a question. I had the same goal last season and got the 19th pick lol So basically because you’re not guaranteed anything besides the best goal scorer this generation has seen, for 2 seasons, you shouldn’t have to give up fair value? Because that’s kinda what it seems like you’re saying. He might get injured, he might get downgraded, he might whatever. And you might win the cup, and he might lead the league in every stat that matters. Whats your point? You're basing this off of irl. Where's McDavid in the top 10 for points? Guys sims differently than they play irl. Holding that same value here will not do you well when trading. Otherwise guys like Kaprizov shouldn't hold much value cause he's done nothing in the NHL but would you trade him for Ovi? |
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Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Aug 26, 2020 9:57:42 GMT -5
Oh, and don't forget that Leafs picks are somehow platinum plated & worth more than everyone else's, even being projected in the bottom of the draft order. 😂😂😂 Kruze stop being a dumbass. I said they have value, every pick does. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2020 9:59:58 GMT -5
You're basing this off of irl. Where's McDavid in the top 10 for points? Guys sims differently than they play irl. Holding that same value here will not do you well when trading. Otherwise guys like Kaprizov shouldn't hold much value cause he's done nothing in the NHL but would you trade him for Ovi? I wouldn’t trade Kaprizov in that deal because that’s not where I’m at, but it’s exactly where you’re at. And guess what? Kaprizov is 30+ goal scorer in sims, so that’s where I base his value. And you’re still not giving up close to an asset like Kaprizov in this deal. |
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Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Aug 26, 2020 10:02:11 GMT -5
You're basing this off of irl. Where's McDavid in the top 10 for points? Guys sims differently than they play irl. Holding that same value here will not do you well when trading. Otherwise guys like Kaprizov shouldn't hold much value cause he's done nothing in the NHL but would you trade him for Ovi? I wouldn’t trade Kaprizov in that deal because that’s not where I’m at, but it’s exactly where you’re at. And guess what? Kaprizov is 30+ goal scorer in sims, so that’s where I base his value. And you’re still not giving up close to an asset like Kaprizov in this deal. If you were at that place, would you move Kaprizov for Ovi? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2020 10:03:04 GMT -5
Yes I would, or maybe I don’t need Ovechkin
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Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Aug 26, 2020 10:04:26 GMT -5
I'm sorry but if you would ever even consider that then that tells me how you evaluation of players is lol. You're heading into Kruze territory, may want to back up a bit before heading there.
It's okay, keep your rejection, I at least understand now how you evaluate trades.
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Post by Nashville Predators GM on Aug 26, 2020 10:05:51 GMT -5
This is fine, accept.
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