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Post by Seattle Kraken GM on Jan 3, 2021 14:13:44 GMT -5
Of course you don't cuz you're notorious for making bad deals like this too. 🙄😂😂 It doesn't, and shouldn't, matter if you're a newb or a vet... a shitty deal, is shitty deal. Period. Allowing crap like this to go on, even between 2 vets, affects the league & player values. Boeser is worth much more than that. Deals like this affect shit all. I traded Olofsson for more than this and that didn’t affect the value that Avs got for Boeser. You think the NHL stops a bad trade from happening? It’s unrealistic for us to stop trades even if they’re bad. Protecting new GMs is one thing but I think micromanaging other teams because you don’t like the deal is something that we shouldn’t be doing. Avs and Philly both know what they’re doing. Like I've said to you several times now Joubie... You can't have it both ways nor can you evaluate deals differently, no matter who's involved in the deal. Yes, being preventive of newbs being taken advantage of is part of it, but so too is protecting the integrity of these leagues as well. You've never seemed to grasp that concept cuz you're all about taking advantage of anyone you can. lol And especially when player values are already as haywire as they are too... You call it micromanaging, but the fact is I expect the same scrutiny on deals I make too. Simply allowing anyone to be ripped off is wrong. |
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Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Jan 3, 2021 14:30:56 GMT -5
Deals like this affect shit all. I traded Olofsson for more than this and that didn’t affect the value that Avs got for Boeser. You think the NHL stops a bad trade from happening? It’s unrealistic for us to stop trades even if they’re bad. Protecting new GMs is one thing but I think micromanaging other teams because you don’t like the deal is something that we shouldn’t be doing. Avs and Philly both know what they’re doing. Like I've said to you several times now Joubie... You can't have it both ways nor can you evaluate deals differently, no matter who's involved in the deal. Yes, being preventive of newbs being taken advantage of is part of it, but so too is protecting the integrity of these leagues as well. You've never seemed to grasp that concept cuz you're all about taking advantage of anyone you can. lol And especially when player values are already as haywire as they are too... You call it micromanaging, but the fact is I expect the same scrutiny on deals I make too. Simply allowing anyone to be ripped off is wrong. It’s called learning from your mistakes and moving on. That’s what I did when I first started and RK hugged me in my deal. I didn’t see anybody stopping me from trading him Couturier for Armstrong and Crabb. If you make a bad deal and you know what you’re doing that’s your fault, not the league’s to step in and stop it. The NHL didn’t stop Pittsburgh from trading Hollander and the 15th overall pick for Kapanen. Unless it’s a newbie our job is to stop cheating, not trades between two vets that know what they’re doing. |
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Post by Old Greg on Jan 3, 2021 14:34:24 GMT -5
Like I've said to you several times now Joubie... You can't have it both ways nor can you evaluate deals differently, no matter who's involved in the deal. Yes, being preventive of newbs being taken advantage of is part of it, but so too is protecting the integrity of these leagues as well. You've never seemed to grasp that concept cuz you're all about taking advantage of anyone you can. lol And especially when player values are already as haywire as they are too... You call it micromanaging, but the fact is I expect the same scrutiny on deals I make too. Simply allowing anyone to be ripped off is wrong. It’s called learning from your mistakes and moving on. That’s what I did when I first started and RK hugged me in my deal. I didn’t see anybody stopping me from trading him Couturier for Armstrong and Crabb. If you make a bad deal and you know what you’re doing that’s your fault, not the league’s to step in and stop it. The NHL didn’t stop Pittsburgh from trading Hollander and the 15th overall pick for Kapanen. Unless it’s a newbie our job is to stop cheating, not trades between two vets that know what they’re doing. Was Rk the admin of this league where you got hugged? |
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Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Jan 3, 2021 14:35:31 GMT -5
It’s called learning from your mistakes and moving on. That’s what I did when I first started and RK hugged me in my deal. I didn’t see anybody stopping me from trading him Couturier for Armstrong and Crabb. If you make a bad deal and you know what you’re doing that’s your fault, not the league’s to step in and stop it. The NHL didn’t stop Pittsburgh from trading Hollander and the 15th overall pick for Kapanen. Unless it’s a newbie our job is to stop cheating, not trades between two vets that know what they’re doing. Was Rk the admin of this league where you got hugged? He was the simmer lmao |
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Post by Old Greg on Jan 3, 2021 14:38:28 GMT -5
Was Rk the admin of this league where you got hugged? He was the simmer lmao Ya well there you go. His leagues were famous for having these random gms sign up and then he would make trades with them and they would disappear after a day or so that’s why I think it’s funny he keeps accusing you of doing that in rock em |
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Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Jan 3, 2021 14:39:53 GMT -5
Ya well there you go. His leagues were famous for having these random gms sign up and then he would make trades with them and they would disappear after a day or so that’s why I think it’s funny he keeps accusing you of doing that in rock em Probably mad cause I became a better GM than him  |
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Post by Seattle Kraken GM on Jan 3, 2021 14:43:07 GMT -5
Like I've said to you several times now Joubie... You can't have it both ways nor can you evaluate deals differently, no matter who's involved in the deal. Yes, being preventive of newbs being taken advantage of is part of it, but so too is protecting the integrity of these leagues as well. You've never seemed to grasp that concept cuz you're all about taking advantage of anyone you can. lol And especially when player values are already as haywire as they are too... You call it micromanaging, but the fact is I expect the same scrutiny on deals I make too. Simply allowing anyone to be ripped off is wrong. It’s called learning from your mistakes and moving on. That’s what I did when I first started and RK hugged me in my deal. I didn’t see anybody stopping me from trading him Couturier for Armstrong and Crabb. If you make a bad deal and you know what you’re doing that’s your fault, not the league’s to step in and stop it. The NHL didn’t stop Pittsburgh from trading Hollander and the 15th overall pick for Kapanen. Unless it’s a newbie our job is to stop cheating, not trades between two vets that know what they’re doing. Again, it doesn't matter if you're a vet or a newb. Trades should be evaluated the same for everyone. Yes, rk did rip you off in that deal... And what did you learn from that experience as a newb? Cuz it sure as hell wasn't to be fair & honest... 🤷 All I've really seen from you since then is applying the principle of trying to rip people off like rk did to you, not come from a place of fairness & honesty. That's how/what you learned out of that experience, and it's wrong. |
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Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Jan 3, 2021 14:45:28 GMT -5
It’s called learning from your mistakes and moving on. That’s what I did when I first started and RK hugged me in my deal. I didn’t see anybody stopping me from trading him Couturier for Armstrong and Crabb. If you make a bad deal and you know what you’re doing that’s your fault, not the league’s to step in and stop it. The NHL didn’t stop Pittsburgh from trading Hollander and the 15th overall pick for Kapanen. Unless it’s a newbie our job is to stop cheating, not trades between two vets that know what they’re doing. Again, it doesn't matter if you're a vet or a newb. Trades should be evaluated the same for everyone. Yes, rk did rip you off in that deal... And what did you learn from that experience as a newb? Cuz it sure as hell wasn't to be fair & honest... 🤷 All I've really seen from you since then is applying the principle of trying to rip people off like rk did to you, not come from a place of fairness & honesty. That's how/what you learned out of that experience, and it's wrong. What I learned is to put my team first, like everybody else does and how to properly evaluate my players even if others don’t agree with that evaluation. I’ve won over 10 Cups since then so clearly I’ve been doing something right. |
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Post by Seattle Kraken GM on Jan 3, 2021 14:55:42 GMT -5
Again, it doesn't matter if you're a vet or a newb. Trades should be evaluated the same for everyone. Yes, rk did rip you off in that deal... And what did you learn from that experience as a newb? Cuz it sure as hell wasn't to be fair & honest... 🤷 All I've really seen from you since then is applying the principle of trying to rip people off like rk did to you, not come from a place of fairness & honesty. That's how/what you learned out of that experience, and it's wrong. What I learned is to put my team first, like everybody else does and how to properly evaluate my players even if others don’t agree with that evaluation. I’ve won over 10 Cups since then so clearly I’ve been doing something right. 1) You DON'T evaluate trades/players properly; you never have. 😂 2) The only folks that put their team first over the integrity of the league are the folks like you that are just fine with allowing these shitty trades cuz "they know what they're doing" and are fine with screwing anyone over. 3) Over 10 cups?! 😂😂 You've won like 2 in EA leagues, tops... This isn't like Goldberg's streak where you can just add a win here and there and no one will notice. 😜 |
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Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Jan 3, 2021 15:06:08 GMT -5
What I learned is to put my team first, like everybody else does and how to properly evaluate my players even if others don’t agree with that evaluation. I’ve won over 10 Cups since then so clearly I’ve been doing something right. 1) You DON'T evaluate trades/players properly; you never have. 😂 2) The only folks that put their team first over the integrity of the league are the folks like you that are just fine with allowing these shitty trades cuz "they know what they're doing" and are fine with screwing anyone over. 3) Over 10 cups?! 😂😂 You've won like 2 in EA leagues, tops... This isn't like Goldberg's streak where you can just add a win here and there and no one will notice. 😜 1) Is that why the majority of the league has hopped onto my evaluation of prospects and how the upgrades towards them make them more valuable than the 12.5M 4th line you have going? And just about everybody puts their team first, and if you don’t that’s probably why you win once every 5 irl years. This is a league where the goal is to win, not baby everybody and protect their assets for them. If I can get an extra piece in a deal then I’ll go for it, as would every other GM in the league. And yeah, you said that in the last era of this site and I proved you wrong on my cup wins lol. You just don’t pay attention. |
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Post by Seattle Kraken GM on Jan 3, 2021 15:30:15 GMT -5
1) You DON'T evaluate trades/players properly; you never have. 😂 2) The only folks that put their team first over the integrity of the league are the folks like you that are just fine with allowing these shitty trades cuz "they know what they're doing" and are fine with screwing anyone over. 3) Over 10 cups?! 😂😂 You've won like 2 in EA leagues, tops... This isn't like Goldberg's streak where you can just add a win here and there and no one will notice. 😜 1) Is that why the majority of the league has hopped onto my evaluation of prospects and how the upgrades towards them make them more valuable than the 12.5M 4th line you have going? And just about everybody puts their team first, and if you don’t that’s probably why you win once every 5 irl years. This is a league where the goal is to win, not baby everybody and protect their assets for them. If I can get an extra piece in a deal then I’ll go for it, as would every other GM in the league. And yeah, you said that in the last era of this site and I proved you wrong on my cup wins lol. You just don’t pay attention. 1) That one's still a head scratcher, but I also wouldn't give you much credit for that at all cuz your ideas on prospects are so far out there that it's not even congruent with the current system. When they came into place, the idea was to raise the value of prospects, which it did, but it's been taken way too far. 2) Putting your team first doesn't mean setting out to screw over everyone all the time, but that's what you learned as a newb, so you don't know any other way. And that falls on the leadership & admins at that time for allowing it to happen and making it "acceptable", when it's not. 3) Counting your own franchise seasons playing doesn't count either. 😂😂 Nor do the pathetic leagues ManMMA attempted & failed either. 😜 |
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Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Jan 3, 2021 15:38:34 GMT -5
1) Is that why the majority of the league has hopped onto my evaluation of prospects and how the upgrades towards them make them more valuable than the 12.5M 4th line you have going? And just about everybody puts their team first, and if you don’t that’s probably why you win once every 5 irl years. This is a league where the goal is to win, not baby everybody and protect their assets for them. If I can get an extra piece in a deal then I’ll go for it, as would every other GM in the league. And yeah, you said that in the last era of this site and I proved you wrong on my cup wins lol. You just don’t pay attention. 1) That one's still a head scratcher, but I also wouldn't give you much credit for that at all cuz your ideas on prospects are so far out there that it's not even congruent with the current system. When they came into place, the idea was to raise the value of prospects, which it did, but it's been taken way too far. 2) Putting your team first doesn't mean setting out to screw over everyone all the time, but that's what you learned as a newb, so you don't know any other way. And that falls on the leadership & admins at that time for allowing it to happen and making it "acceptable", when it's not. 3) Counting your own franchise seasons playing doesn't count either. 😂😂 Nor do the pathetic leagues ManMMA attempted & failed either. 😜 My ideas on prospects is why the majority of the league would call a prospect as well. And no, I don’t screw over everyone. Is there deals I win? Yeah. Are there deals I’ve lost? Yeah. I make a deal for what I think helps my team while also providing to my trading partner what they want. Now if that’s more than what I’m willing to give then I walk away. If it’s less then I’m not gonna tell them that I can give them more when they’ve already accepted the deal. That’s just stupid. |
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Post by Florida Panthers GM on Jan 3, 2021 15:38:56 GMT -5
Could we just get more mods/admins on this? Lol the conversation here is takimg away from the fact this has been up for 14 hrs.
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Post by Seattle Kraken GM on Jan 3, 2021 16:05:35 GMT -5
1) That one's still a head scratcher, but I also wouldn't give you much credit for that at all cuz your ideas on prospects are so far out there that it's not even congruent with the current system. When they came into place, the idea was to raise the value of prospects, which it did, but it's been taken way too far. 2) Putting your team first doesn't mean setting out to screw over everyone all the time, but that's what you learned as a newb, so you don't know any other way. And that falls on the leadership & admins at that time for allowing it to happen and making it "acceptable", when it's not. 3) Counting your own franchise seasons playing doesn't count either. 😂😂 Nor do the pathetic leagues ManMMA attempted & failed either. 😜 My ideas on prospects is why the majority of the league would call a prospect as well. And no, I don’t screw over everyone. Is there deals I win? Yeah. Are there deals I’ve lost? Yeah. I make a deal for what I think helps my team while also providing to my trading partner what they want. Now if that’s more than what I’m willing to give then I walk away. If it’s less then I’m not gonna tell them that I can give them more when they’ve already accepted the deal. That’s just stupid. This current system for prospects wasn't your idea. 😂😂 The fact you try to take credit for it, is hilarious. And yes, you do try to screw folks over Joubie... You always have. But reminding us now of how you "learned" as a newb, that's not surprising at all either. 🤷 No one should learn that way because it teaches bad habits & it also compromises the integrity of the league when bad trades are put through... It doesn't matter how much experience you have, it sets a bad example for newer players too. In fact, experienced players should know better... |
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Post by Tampa Bay Lightning GM on Jan 3, 2021 16:13:17 GMT -5
My ideas on prospects is why the majority of the league would call a prospect as well. And no, I don’t screw over everyone. Is there deals I win? Yeah. Are there deals I’ve lost? Yeah. I make a deal for what I think helps my team while also providing to my trading partner what they want. Now if that’s more than what I’m willing to give then I walk away. If it’s less then I’m not gonna tell them that I can give them more when they’ve already accepted the deal. That’s just stupid. This current system for prospects wasn't your idea. 😂😂 The fact you try to take credit for it, is hilarious. And yes, you do try to screw folks over Joubie... You always have. But reminding us now of how you "learned" as a newb, that's not surprising at all either. 🤷 No one should learn that way because it teaches bad habits & it also compromises the integrity of the league when bad trades are put through... It doesn't matter how much experience you have, it sets a bad example for newer players too. In fact, experienced players should know better... I’m not taking credit for the system of prospect upgrades, I’m taking credit for the value put on prospects (which you yourself have said is my doing when complaining about how they’re overvalued). Cranker and I were the first ones to really identify the value of prospects when we transitioned to a performance based upgrading system. And again, not every trade will be fair. My job and everybody else’s job isn’t to baby the GM they’re trading with, it’s to do what is best for my team and my team alone. Have trades come to bite me in the ass? Yeah. Have I had big trades that worked largely in my favour? Yeah. It’s apart of being a GM. You win some, you lose some. It’s not the league’s job to tell you if you’re losing, you should know that yourself. |
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